Tech tycoon Elon Musk joined a call between US President-elect Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the day after the presidential election, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

  • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
    11·
    14 days ago

    I think Vance might at least be convinced to do logical things.

    He’s more likely to competently implement project 2025. Or at least more competently than Trump.

    And that’s not a good thing for anyone.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
      7·
      14 days ago

      I go back and forth on which is more dangerous.

      trump is pathologically incapable of not backstabbing everyone around him and people telling him what to do is going to accelerate that. So we might get lucky and go back to the largely ineffectual screaming of the last round rather than focused efforts.

      But vance actually has ambitions and might want to be his own person. And vance is REAL stupid.

      I think we are horribly fucked either way but I think I am still leaning toward trump surviving until late 2028.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        13 days ago

        I firmly believe that Trump will be removed before his term is done. One because Republicans kind of need someone after Trump. But the bigger reason is he is such a narcissist that he is almost certain to step on a few billionaires toes. I think if he accidentally fucks with big money with some short sighted policy he will be swiftly removed.

        • bamfic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          14 days ago

          I think this is unlikely but is still the most likely way he could be contained or even removed

        • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
          1·
          14 days ago

          Removed by who?

          trump controls the military. And as much people think the evil space lizards control the universe, that really isn’t the way. And there is zero cahnce that the secret service or even the CIA are going to allow trump to put two in the back of his head and then commit suicide by hanging himself off the roof of the white house.

          • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            13 days ago

            Vance and or the apparatus enabling Trump.

            Elon can’t take his place… but him, and a few other billionaires can easily put enough pressure for him to be replaced if/when he betrays one of them. Probably because something they were involved with goes bad and he tries to throw them under the bus.