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A video encouraging women to vote independently for Kamala Harris sparked outrage among conservative men, who called it divisive and “amoral.” The video highlights the gender gap that has widened between Harris and Trump, with recent polls showing notable leads by Harris among women and Trump among men.

Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

Supporters argue it reflects real tensions around women’s autonomy, especially in conservative households.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      12 days ago

      How dare you encourage my wife to be an independent person and have her own thoughts!

      • conservative men
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    I can’t imagine (as a unmarried guy) living in a marriage where my wife would be afraid to tell me who she voted for. Even if she votes Trump, she’s my spouse, and that comes way before that. She should chew me out if I make her feel afraid.

    …It makes me feel shame for the culture some men are raised in.

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      I don’t know. If my wife voted for Trump she knows I’d leave her, so I can imagine she wouldn’t tell me if she did. Not to mention she’d have to have been lying about her entire personality the whole time we knew eachother XD.

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      I’d you’re married to someone who has opposite political views than you , your marriage probably has a lot of issues and voting secrecy is way down on the list. You don’t need to be perfectly aligned but mostly.

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        Depends upon how extreme the differences are. Arnold Schwarzenegger - who’s a moderate Republican (thankfully supporting Harris) - was married to Maria Shriver from the infamously Democrat-heavy Kennedy family for well over a quarter century. Bill Clinton’s (in)famous campaign adviser, James Carville, had been married to a well known Republican counterpart (Mary Matalin) since the early '90s.

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          I remember my parents civilly disagreeing about H.W. vs. Dukakis, and later H.W. vs. Clinton. There was never a problem there, just a civil discussion and a difference of opinion. But if either of them was a MAGAt, I think they would be spending their last decade or two apart, and they’d be better off that way too. Shit has been on a while different level the last 10 years, at least.

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    I’m willing to take bets that sometime in the Future there will be a call from Republicans for a new law that allows husbands to see how their wives have voted.

    To protect Family values… And to stop disharmony in the marriage…

    And, of course, to prevent voter fraud…

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      If the Conservatives had their way, women would not be allowed to vote at all. Unfortunately, that still seems to be one of their goals. I mean, Trump and his henchmen have already made sure that women are no longer allowed to control their own bodies, which I have to admit I thought was impossible in a Western country. What makes you think they’re going to leave it at taking away women’s right to a secret ballot? These people want to reverse advances in civilization like women’s right to vote all together. That’s what conservative means to them: back to the Middle Ages. In this sense, they are little different from other religious extremists such as the Taliban. Their goals might be a little different but their means are pretty much the same.

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        If conservatives had their way, men would vote on behalf of their wives and unmarried adult daughters.

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      They’ll pass laws that will give men an extra vote for each child they have (because they are “more invested in the future”) and while we’re at it let’s allow them to vote for the entire family to cut down on voting lines.

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      Gotta stop voter fraud, by letting those who commit election interference and believe the system is compromised to control it. No way that could go wrong.

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    So it is “amoral” to tell women that they can make their own decisions. Thanks for clearing that up, Newt.

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    That’s so weird that the nazi husbands who would give their wife a black eye for voting for kamala would fly into a rage about something.

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      As we always said when the Volunteers lost to Alabama: “Lot of women are going to be falling down stairs tonight.”

      It wasn’t funny then either :(

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    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., joined the criticism Thursday, telling Fox News that Democrats are telling wives to lie to their husbands: “What kind of a totally amoral, corrupt, sick system have the Democrats developed?”

    Ah yes, the guy who has cheated on multiple wives is talking about amorality and corruption.

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      it’s not “cheating” if the husband does it. it’s “the wife is being frigid and insufferable and i had no choice but to fuck whoever else”

      from the party of “it’s not rape if he’s your husband”

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    Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

    And just why does she have to lie about it to her “sweet” husband?..

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      probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life

      Yeah, she probably sits on her ass all day anyway. The kids raise themselves! The audacity of these women to have been born with an ungrateful vagina smh

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    In a functioning democracy, a vote should be secret by default, and that should be the social expectation. If you wanna tell people, sure, but not in a way where your actual vote can be proven.

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    I know who my wife is voting for, but even if she voted differently, I would love her the same. It would hurt if she lied about it though, because it would imply a lack of trust.

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      The guy who helped create the ad even says

      “They took a person’s sanctity of their ballot and turned it into a conversation about men owning the behaviors of the women in their life,” Pagitt said. “And like, well, I didn’t think you were going to make our point for us. We’re very grateful that you did.”

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    Critics like Charlie Kirk labeled it “nauseating,” criticizing the wife for lying to “her sweet husband who probably works his tail off to make sure that she can go and have a nice life and provides for the family.”

    These idiots really miss the fact that most women can, and, in fact, must work. This idea of a “sweet” husband who works to provide for his family is so outdated it’s absurd.

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      That’s actually true in some of their cases, because they don’t have anything else to offer the family.

      I’m willing to bet a lot of these people can’t cook, never clean and are insecure because they jerked around in high school.

      Unfortunately for them, I agree. Better educated women are making people like Kirk obsolete. In the past, the only thing they had to offer was steady income, but now that women are often making more than many of them and are better educated, they feel threatened. So the only thing they have left is pretending women are dumb