• Zachariah@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    There are many where the server owners can see the messages, just not anyone else between the sender and receiver.

    Threema and Signal are good options that don’t do this.

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        14 days ago

        Signal being an American company is also problematic.

        These two are the best balance of security/convenience, however.

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              14 days ago

              if a messenger is truly 0 trust end to end encryption, it doesn’t matter who owns the servers or the legal protections of data because they won’t have any data anyway. that’s why signal is so good, when they get subpoenaed the only information that they actually have is the last connection and message sent unix times or something. still secure regardless of being in the US and being run on centralized Amazon, google, and cloudflare servers.

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                Then the jurisdiction of software development matters. Don’t want a back door being forced into an update by the FBI.

                • ᗪᗩᗰᑎ@sh.itjust.works
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                  13 days ago

                  The FBI can’t just force them to add malicious code. A bad actor could try to contribute bad code, but Signal’s devs would likely catch it.