cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26476469
The corporate media says Putin wants to take over the world, and Trump says Zelenskyy somehow managed to trick the US into supporting him — but the reality is that NATO’s long-term strategy of expansion towards Russia’s borders made war inevitable.
The only REAL path towards peace is the abolition of NATO!
Bullshit take! Basically you say the only way to not get beat up by the bully is to give him your lunch money.
In your reasoning where is the part that gives Russia the right to invade another nation?
You say you can just go: “<insert name> has a strong influence on these states? That’s unacceptable, I should have influence on these states, I should take them by force” and do whatever you want like it’s not your fault, you were forced to do so.
It’s true that Trump says the US was tricked into helping Ukraine because he’s full oc shit. Maybe with him the war wouldn’t have happened but just because he would have given his buddy Putin the lunch money, not because he’s a diplomatic genius. Anyway all of this doesn’t matter, he wasn’t in office when the war started, and whatever he says has nothing to do with how the war started and how it went, he has been president for a month, he has yet to have any influence over the war and whatever piece of news tells you anything is “because of Trump” or “despite what trump did/say” is trying to manipulate you.
If NATO were abolished, Putin would not stop his attack, he would just complete the takeover of Ukraine, and because it went so well he would just go on and takeover the rest of the ex Urss. And keep in mind that these countries are so keen on being part of Russia that they joined NATO.
Can’t tell if sound is distant Russian artillery or Ukrainian socialists throwing their phones at the walls.
Before the internet insane people were left to paint with chalk on the streets… And now this.
If you were to say what you just did in Poland on the street, you’d get lynched.
“expansion”
did NATO invade those countries?
Or did they willingly join a defensive union without threats?
NATO is an offensive imperialist empire not a “defensive union”.
NATO has attacked many countries under false pretenses. Recent examples are Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. And arguably Palestine since NATO’s supply chain is used for Israeli weapons.
This is not to absolve Russia of any blame but let’s not whitewash NATO.
NATO isn’t a “defensive union,” it’s a millitary alliance of Imperialist countries that uses its collective strength to strongarm enemies of NATO. NATO was formed as an explicitly anticommunist organization whose leaders included Nazis like Adolf Heusinger. When threats alone don’t work, NATO engages directly, such as in Operation Gladio.
Russia even tried to join NATO after the dissolution of Socialism and the adoption of Capitalism, but was rejected.
So they willingly joined. got it.
Sure, never said otherwise. Imperialist countries do in fact wish to remain Imperialist and millitary alliances help solidify that.
