I’m getting really sick of leftist social media like Bluesky just being about being another echo chamber and completely unaware of it because “we’re the good politics!”

The sentiment that men are only men if they’re associated with the right has been out in full swing for a few years now and it’s just tiring.

Harris didn’t win because men will never accept a woman president. Except all the men who voted for her, they don’t count, the left gets told it has a problem with men all the time and deflects by saying that it’s men who have the problem by going to the right and supporting them.

Never, not once, are men acknowledged for supporting leftist beliefs or voting for the party, and it’s even looked down upon when they ask for acknowledgement, like it’s entitlement while men on the right live rent free in the heads of the leftist base.

Men get shit on for being asked to be recognized as men on the left but that identity is freely given to men on the right, they don’t have to ask to be acknowledged or recognized because they’re doing what is expected by being the bad guys.

Straight men in particular, you’ll be recognized as a man on the left if you’re gay because it assures everyone who isn’t a man you don’t want anything from them.

Like for fuck’s sake the right is abhorrent and shames women and LBGTQ people for their existence I don’t know how the left got to this point of also saying “you’re not really a man unless you hate women” and not realizing they’re perpetuating the same bullshit.

Like I don’t hate women for being women, but I fucking hate when people assert “all men just hate women” because it’s dumb shit gender essentialism that is just dismissing anything a guy might say in response that isn’t telling the speaker to go fuck themselves.

Yeah of course the right is doing better with men, they aren’t shaming them for existing and only acknowledging them as being pieces of shit.

It’s frustrating because there’s days where I want to say fuck it and go join the other side and I think the left actually wants that more than the right does because they validate men who do it and men who stick with the left? “Yeah whatever do you want a medal?”

How about to be recognized as the gender I identify as and a human being? Apparently too much to ask when it’s a man.

  • considerealization@lemmy.ca
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    I’d like to understand why this post is being hit with downvotes and dismissal. Isn’t the point of this sub to address these kinds of issues and perspectives, confronting them if they need critique perhaps, but providing a space to talk thru and work towards an equitable liberation for all, inclusive of men?

    The first rule in the sidebar is “assume good faith” but multiple comments are making (afaict) groundless accusations of bating. What gives?

    To be clear, I am not saying I co-sign this post. But what I see is someone voicing hurt and a feeling of not feeling safe or recognized, while I think there is a fair bit of inaccurate generalization being made on the basis of that hurt, the hurt is valid and some of the dynamics identified I think are obviously real too.

    I’m just a bit confused about whether this sub is what I took it to be, or if there is some context I’m missing or something.

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      This community isn’t well named. The prevailing opinion tends to be men are a problem until proven otherwise. It’s not about addressing men’s issues, unless those issues are how they can stop inconveniencing women.

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      The first rule in the sidebar is “assume good faith” but multiple comments are making (afaict) groundless accusations of bating. What gives?

      Because the actual baiting is calling anything that doesn’t go with the desired consensus of the accuser as bait.