• migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 个月前

    This narrative is fucking ridiculous to help justify an unjustifiable war. Putin is a fascist leading a fascist regime in a country that is the farthest thing from USSR. Invaded an independent country, started a modern trench war, because the Ukrainian army has a group that has Nazis? That’s the lamest excuse. All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers. You need to stop parroting fascist propaganda while calling yourselves Leftists.

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      “Independent country” lol no, current gov in Ukraine was installed by US backed coup, is an obvious puppet for our foreign policy, removing it is a good thing regardless of who does it

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        Remeber how many cia bases Biden could install there. Biden son was getting 1million per month to dont work.

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      The current regime in Kiev was installed by a US coup in 2014. Obama even bragged about carrying it out.

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      I love how libs have no framework for analyzing why things happen so you just end up combining words you’ve heard before into a salad. Entertain me, tell me why you think this war started.

      All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers

      “Everyone has fascists”

      A) wrong, pure projection

      B) And do those groups run the entire government?

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        Americans are mostly one dimensional. They really believe they are the good guys fighting to export freedom and democracy in the world. They are mostly ultras, not an once of auto critic for their team. They are always the good guys. Always. It is irritating. Anyway, zelensky government was a coup. The guy is right.

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      All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers.

      Evidence of this? It’s hard to prove a 100%, and I doubt AES countries do.

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        This is true. You need people ready to kill and die because of an order. Sane people, if free to choose, dont go to war

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          It only takes one side to have fanatics for the other side to need to defend itself; it’s not just an order that drives sane people to war.

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      You are an American, or you only get info on socials. Read about Ukranian war a bit, how it could have ended in few months, how the end of the war would have hurt american interests. Stat here, but eurpean newspapers were pretty informing at that time. https://www.intellinews.com/fresh-evidence-suggests-that-the-april-2022-istanbul-peace-deal-to-end-the-war-in-ukraine-was-stillborn-321468/

      Please guys stop thinking about good and bad guys in politics or wars. Start thinking.

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      If you say “fascist” often enough, reality will bend to your will. You are a IRL jedi, controlling the world with your mind. Keep doing it.

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      Injustifiable war, exactly. Donbass is occupied from 2008. They had elections to go with russia. Instambul treaty was signed, when usa and Johnson decided war had to continue. This is an injustifiable war driven by USA. Like many in the world.