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remember the windows 7 activation key?
Nobody hacked anything
People found account credentials and tried using them. Nothing nhogh tech here
Many hackers agree that the best way to hack someone is through social engineering to just have them tell you your password.
My favorite is when this security researcher showed on camera how she did it. She took out her laptop and pulled up a soundboard. She pretended to be mom with a crying baby, and begged the customer support to change her account email and reset her password. When they did try to ask for some verification, she played the baby crying sound effects louder. Feeling bad for her, they did what she asked and she “hacked” into the account.
Hacking is very wide and can include things like this. It does not have to be as technical, hard or clever as most gatekeep it to be.
Source: 20 years of experience in the space
ex. password stuffing brute force is hacking
Unauthorized access to a computer system is hacking. It’s trespassing.
Its technically hacking due to it not being your account. Unauthorized access.
That’s still not hacking. It’s “unauthorized access” like you said, or “gaining access”. Hacking requires bypassing some security measure or obtaining access through some technological or social engineering means.
that’s still hacking. hacking is gaining unauthorized access to a system through:
- social engineering
- cypher breaking
- brute force
of the three the first is BY FAR the most common and efficient. it’s also the least sexy so they don’t make movies about it and the public perception is that it’s something else
I agree with what you said. This also wasn’t social engineering. The password was just there and available.
Also, the excellent and amazing movie Hackers features plenty of social engineering.
Also, I didn’t say “excellent” and “amazing” sarcastically. It really is an under rated movie.
The door was unlocked, officer!
Unauthorized access is hacking.
Doesn’t matter if a person has a computer with no password at all. If you are on their computer and you are not authorized to use their computer that is a crime.
If i give someone my bank details and passwords and they empty my account, can I claim I’ve been hacked?
No.
What part of “unauthorized access” is so difficult for people to understand?
How is authorization determined?
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you’re taking this splitting hairs to the moon today aren’t you, little troll.
Talk about a hard derail to burry the lead.
The thing everyone wants to see to dethrone this racist pile of shite and you’re over here like “it’s pronounced potato, not potato.”
Legally it’s called hacking.
@FBI this guy has illegal shit on their computer. Probably child porn.
Maybe “hacking” in the CFAA sense
Maybe I’m misunderstanding something because no one here has mentioned the obvious:
Did we acquire the full unredacted set of his emails ?
From what I remember, the guy said that not much was left and most of the emails were deleted
Seriously, wouldn’t this be kind of huge news if we suddenly had access to the evidence they tried to hide? Too bad this is a news article and someone probably changed the password by now.
There’s no news on it and I have to assume it’s because if that is the full unredacted email there’s probably a ton of CSAM. If so it’s technically illegal to own and anyone who is downloading it might be opening themselves up to arrest or legal challenges, even if they’re a journalist.
I would presume IF this is a full release of the Epstein GMail account, and IF it’s not a honeypot op of some kind from CIA/IDF/SVR/whoever, and IF it’s legit… then this is big. Nearly all American news orgs have been gutted though, and I doubt any billionaire that owns the news orgs would be ok with having their wealthy cohort exposed.
Whoever might be investigating this would almost certainly keep quiet until all of their ducks are in a row because the second they publish, they’re going to be arrested for CSAM. Unless they’re in a country with no extradition treaty with the US. And even then they’ll be subject to extraordinary rendition cause Trump don’t care about US law, why would the lack of an extradition treaty stop him?
It’s ridiculous that evidence of the crimes they committed is going to be used to arrest anyone who tries to uncover evidence of who committed those crimes. By ridiculous I don’t mean I don’t think it will happen. I think you are right about that.
I mean, I know there are some people who would definitely do the wrong thing and that’s why it needed to be released carefully to avoid this kind of mess and why normally this kind of digging would be done by the government or trusted investigators, but it’s troublesome because the established power structure (regardless of party) are some of the same people who committed these crimes and we clearly can’t trust them to do the right thing.
Soooooo, reading someone’s password then using it is “hacking” now?
Yours,
Schwim, Master HackerI like that this is the important part, the thing that people are annoyed with. Pff, loser, did you even use the terminal? Fake ass bitch.
Do these emails even matter given that be wasn’t self-hosting?
That’s always been hacking lol.
Multiple major dictionaries seem to define computer hacking as: “to gain unauthorized access to a computer network, system, etc.” or something similar. So yeah, it seems that using a password you found somewhere to access an account that isn’t yours would indeed be considered “hacking.”
Basically 80% of the “hacks” in the world find ez password get on lan create admin
It’s hacking as soon as it’s uncomfortable for someone with power.
Always has been.
Edit: wow, downvotes. Care to explain?
Legally speaking unfortunately.
Yeah, much of “hacking” is lamer than the movies show.
Rami Malek did a decent job of making “real hacking” look cool in Mr Robot
That was mostly the production crew who took a lot of time to use real hacks and UIs to recreate them live.
I was moreso getting at the social engineering bits. But yea the writing and production was well done for sure!
Bro completely destroyed that poor man’s life
If you can read, you’re now a hacker. Which means a good percentage of Trump voters can’t hack.
Email, dental hygiene, spelling, reality. They just can’t hack a good many things.
Bro, I just hacked MYSELF
Bro.
Bro
Somewhat, yeah. A lot of hacking is like that along with social engineering
So every other child rapist’s name gets redacted but they can’t even do a scan for passwords?
Apparently the word “don’t” can also be found redacted.
Because they did a regex for Don(.)T and didn’t bother to check
They did bother to check, they are just sloppy. It seems like it’s more that one slipped through the cracks. There are plenty of unredacted “don t” in the files. Looks like they did blanket redactions of “Don T” (and other Trump related names) and then went through manually and unredacted false positives to cover their tracks. But they missed one. It’s still a smoking gun, though, as there’s literally no reason to redact “don t”.
They were so busy hunting for the rapists they completely forgot about passwords…or we’ve got some decent folks weaponizing “incompetence”
I’m convinced they used AI to redact everything, and didn’t double back and check them until after a particular page made headlines.
I’ve seen numerous videos where they program a script to remove the 5-6 different ways “redactions” were added and they make no sense from a technical stand point, leaving me to believe that someone non-technical told AI exactly how they wanted to redact, and then put those files in their outbox.
They uploaded the Bash 3.3 reference manual and even that had some redactions so your theory is almost definitely correct
Yea this is highly likely… I can’t imagine how they made it this far being so… Fukkin dum
More likely they were busy redacting Donald from the files - or mark them “Top Secret”.
Hunter2
All I can see is *******
yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
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they just assumed it was one of hunter biden’s kids and waved it through
Did anyone scrape and archive the contents?
Surprised a Lemmy instance doesn’t have it honestly
If they’d stop talking about Linux or posting furry porn for a minute they would.
/s
No /s needed here
I love us
Thanks but I’d much rather see furry porn and Linux BS over here at pawb. If you want Epstein and his CSAM, you’re free to keep it over there at .world.
The mods have posted a followup about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1qwt4pb/epstein_deleted_posts_and_our_thoughts_moving/
Might a reddit mod/admin be trying to delay the discovery of their name on a list?
Since I got banned for saying that the current CEO was a mod for r/jailbait… I’m guessing it could be related. Just a guess.
For those that are fortunate enough to not know… r/jailbait is for posts depicting women that look so young they could get you in prison if you liked looking at them… Ala “jailbait”…
Are you a bot?
It was for pictures of clearly underage girls that were dressed provacatively or doing suggestive poses.
Was it? Last I was unfortunate enough to come across that, I looked in the comments and people wwre mwntioning porn star names which did look identical
Was it as you said before, or something? I only stumbled on it a few years ago
I’m referring to how it was 10’ish years ago. As far as I can tell it was eventually banned. If it resurfaced with a different purpose, I’m unaware of that.
Oh… Yea I didn’t know
Damn
was this the jmail thing?
No.
jmail is just taking the existing released documents and putting them into a gmail looking thing.
What is jmail, like “jewMail”
Didn’t the Maxwell mod come back to life a few weeks ago?
Edit - no
Thanks for looking it up. I evidently am incorrect.
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