I don’t know any true Christians who are MAGA or racists or even bigots. But with the commonly used definition that if someone says something is bad they automatically are seen as hating the people doing it many people arguing in communities like that would be called haters or bigots and possibly be banned here on lemmy.world. Even though most true Christians don’t like MAGA and hardline rights they might feel the need to create communities like r/TrueChristian oad r/AskAChristian on exploding-heads.com or similar servers because they might think that their opinions are tolerated there. What do you think?

  • vaseltarp@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    16·
    1 year ago

    Your link has a very shallow definition of the “No true Scotsman” fallacy.

    A better definition is on Wikipedia:

    No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their generalized statement from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly. Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc to definitionally exclude the undesirable specific case and similar counterexamples by appeal to rhetoric.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

    But I can argue that the definition of Cristian comes from the behavior and teaching of Jesus and the new testament and thus excludes bigotry hate and racism.

    Also, telling people that they will be tortured for etwrnity (hell) […] is ultimately bigoted and hateful.

    Unless that is really true. Then it would be unloving to not warn people.

    • confluence@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Unless that is really true. Then it would be unloving to not warn people.

      Absolutely. Just make sure it’s true and bring the evidence before you do it though. Otherwise you may be using fear-based emotional manipulation to coerce an opinion, even if that’s not your intention.