Turbine go brr
It’s so crazy that we’ve found like six different ways to use rocks to boil water. You’d think there’d just be two or three
Hopefully this one directly shoves the electons. I’m scared of society’s DHMO dependency.
Are we against boiling water only because it is old? Because if that is the only problem and we are ok with reliability and efficiency than i will take old
Its more a commentary that most “new electricity source!!! Amazing!” Is a heat source thats boiling water to turbines which isnt a new method, its a new source of heat. So more a complaint about sensational headlines about electricity
Sahara?
I mean, is there a more efficient way to take raw energy and spin a turbine with it?
Photosynthesis?
Don’t we try this every few decades and realize it’s not as great as it seems? There’s one of these in the American Southwest that wasn’t worth the trouble to operate.
In terms of badass things to build your civilisation around, though, every single bit of me wants to live in a city constructed around one of these bad boys.
Hell yeah I’ll get in a parade to worship one of those things, they’re insanely fucking cool.
Well molten salt batteries are a thing, I’m presuming this is to buffer the output of the solar and that the losses were deemed acceptable given the renewable nature of this.
Yeah, you can store the molten salt and its heat for when it’s needed even at night. But it is used to drive a turbine hehe
Supercritical CO2 is entering the chat
Compressed air…turbines still going burr this whole time! Gravity pumping… Turbines!
It’s just used to scroll social media again isn’t it?
Porn.
It’s technically illegal in China, but I don’t know how illegal.
It’s incredibly silly that even tho we advance the scale of power, with electricity, solar and even nuclear, all we use it is to boil water. We just can’t seem to be able t build any a more advanced mechanism, it seems.
I learned the other day there is a nuclear reactor in development that will use as primary coolant…molten lead.
Still use to boil water then, but pretty freaky still.
Water is a fucking insanely awesome material.
I think this may be due to the specific heat of water, no other substance matches it.
I’d guess because its all heat energy in the end, so you need something that expands and compresses. The only alternative I suppose would be like sound waves, or mechanical energy, or whatever a battery does.
That does make sense, but then again, it’s been 2000 years and we can’t find something that boils, expands and compresses better than water? Or is t just because water is commonplace enough in comparisoan?
Somebody linked above to a new closed loop turbine design which uses supercritical CO2. I know from CO2 refrigeration that CO2 has some insane volumetric expansion based on temp which makes it a good candidate for use in a closed loop turbine system. Plus, because they’re running it through the turbine as a supercritical fluid, the density is higher than that of steam so it requires smaller turbines. The biggest issue is that because it’s super critical CO2 youre talking about working pressures well over 1000PSI. That doesn’t make it impossible to work with as we already know from CO2 refrigeration, but it does make it a bit more difficult than just boiling water.
I am sure that they have, but there’s a lot more to it than just that. They have to consider long term maintenance, safety, and availability of parts.
Water is known and well established, you can buy a lot of stuff right off the shelf and we know it’s short and long term dangers. Everything else gets expensive and unknown very quickly.
I always assume they had additives in closed loop systems, but you’re right you’d think there would be something.
Started looking into what liquids they are using and realized i was reading treatment chemicals they add to the boiler water. I know there’s some reactors that use molten salt, but they are just used as energy transfer to… the boiler full of water. Lol. The properties of water expansion from liquid to steam probably can’t be beat or it’s qualities of cheap, simple, good enough.
Hard to beat spinning a magnet to generate electricity, and it’s hard to beat boiling water to spin a magnet
Fair point magnets are basically a superpower by themselves.
So is water. Hard to beat a miracle fluid that covers most of our planet.
Wind and photovoltaic have nothing to do with water
Mfw they use wind and photovoltaic energy to pump water to a high place so they can put it through a turbine later
Good news!
Photovoltaics
Guess what I’m boiling with the power from that solar panel
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Meh, it works.
Never sell proven chemistry or physics short. Water transforming to a vapor is awesome. Maybe we could harness the energy of water transforming to a solid too.
The thing is: transforming into a solid is usually caused by removing energy from matter. The real reason steam is so great is because we put energy into it to make it steam and when the steam turns a turbine, we are converting that chaotic energy into directional, controlled energy.
I mean, it… does expand when freezing… so maybe?
I knew what video it was before I clicked, love that guy XD
MA! NEW ACE COMBAT BOSS JUST DROPPED!!
Was gonna say. I definitely blew this thing up in AC4.
latin chanting intensifies
It would also be ideal for high-efficiency, high-temperature hydrogen production.
