• possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    So you’re still far right, just not an abject nazi, got it. That was confirmed by the whole “trans dudes taking over women’s sports” as well, btw. If you’re going to denigrate a minority group at least know what the fuck you’re talking about.

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      See, this is why your party is going to lose more elections than they win in the long run, though there will thankfully be a blue wave for midterms. You’ve been pushing the average Centrist American to the right for a decade by just labelling them, “far right.” By your definition all Christians would be far right, since we believe a man cannot become a woman. As long as the left insists on pushing trans idiology, it will hurt them immensely. But don’t take my word for it, just watch Newsom go against the trans movement first, and sensible Democrats to follow. If you on the far left punish them for it, there will be double the Republican wins over Democrats for at least the next decade. The trans issue is a losing issue for your side, period.

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        I currently live in Europe, where since I’m an American, we routinely have conversations about how the US Democrats are further right than the right wing parties of my host country. Trans rights, motherfucker. Scratch a “centrist” and they start bitching about trans people like a typical far right bigot.

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        Christians, the ultimate delusional “feelings over facts” people, here to lecture us again what the “American Center” is.

        Elsewhere in this thread, this MFer said TPUSA was the center.

        I now understand gulags and re-education camps.

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          Relax, I don’t wish any harm on trans people, it is just my personal Christian opinion that they are confused and need help. Over half the country agrees with me, and I don’t see much good coming out if debating it with someone like you.

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            All right. I really like religious studies, I’m a Christian, although it goes much, much deeper than that. I’m gonna need a reason from Christ himself justifying your beliefs.

            Now, regardless of nothing of the sort being mentioned by the Christ, why would you, a self-proclaimed proponent of loving everyone (Christian), insist on using rhetoric that you surely know is insulting and degrading to a group of people? Was it not Christ that said, if you see your brother stumble, first go to him? Then his family? It seems, in your haste judgments you’ve skipped some steps.

            Lastly, this is why the western church is dying. Apostle Paul warned of things not in the Gospel dividing the Church. As such, you have not heeded his words. Christians casting harsh judgments, with condescension and arrogance is precisely why people hate us. And they are right to. You would be well to learn, and praise in it. You are a Christian, start acting like it.

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              Please see the Christian Existentialist philosophy I write and preach in Austin (link in profile). In the true Kierkegaardian sense, we must find God’s reflection in outer reality, meditate on it within our Will (or Dasein if you prefer Heidegger), and then reflect it out back into the world as decisive action. That is how we give up the original sin of free will and perform God’s Will. Also God’s direct commands let us suspend the ethical, even his commandments, to perform what must be done. This is shown in the story of Abraham and Isaac, and proved out to be true by Kierkegaard in his masterwork Fear and Trembling. Most Christian Existentialists agree that there is direct evidence that God intended for homosexuality to be fine, but not transgenderism as it is not reflected by science in any human genetics.

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                I am well aware of Kierkegaard. I said I am really into religious studies, so I’m a little insulted. Taking a philosopher’s ideas and extracting that much from it, when his main point was worry about your own shit, and twisting it into your dogma is the same thing the western church does every Sunday.

                How can you claim knowledge when the breadth of knowledge is only from lived experience? Your lived experience. By doing this you are disregarding one of the core tenants of Kierkegaard. Notwithstanding, you are still disregarding the second greatest commandment; love your neighbor. This is not neighborly. If you have a problem, and solving that problem requires you to hurt someone, don’t. Words can hurt and yours have. That is above all else. Apologize for any harm your words have caused, and just go on your way, brother.

                Edit: I would like to add, deigning free will as a sin is a gross misinterpretation of the Genesis and a bad one at that. It ignores broad strokes of history and theology that can’t be dismissed as a sin of free will.

                Edit edit: Kierkegaard’s ideas aren’t even super original. It takes a lot of Greek philosophy and puts a Christian spin on it.

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                No wonder the US is such a shitstain if you are a moderate, democratic voter. All this religious bullshit is what is the undoing of what Americans perceive as freedom and democracy. There is no god, there is no Jesus. Christianity is the root of all evil, greed, jealousy, gluteny, war, millions and millions of deaths. It was an concept taken up by Constantine and later Charlemagne to control the peasant population and enforce as law by force and violence. Just like the current US regime is trying to do with fucking prayer at the Pentagon and claiming death to Islam. People like you are delusional.

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                  And we believe Europe is a shithole full of atheists who take Nietzsche and Sartre far too literally and seriously. How’s that unchecked immigration working for you with the Muslim rape gangs?

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                    That is another thing that Christians are good at: empathy, caring and understanding. Oh and buying into all the propanda that is being spoon fed to you by the selected sources in your bubble. Just like religion: never let a bad story get in the way of the truth.

                    BTW ask any average European about nietzsche or sartre and you’ll get a blank stare. At least we are taught about this in school, unlike the US where anything that might challenge the status quo is being banned (books) and bibles and commandments are taken precedent. At least we were never taught any religious beliefs because Europe takes separation between church and state seriously.