Yes, but Texas has 3 major population centers which are all pretty blue, not just Austin, and has benefited from destroying the environment through the sale of oil, which definitely subsidized itself a little (incidentally Texas should be the wealthiest per capita state if they’d socialized their oil sales instead of allowing like 3 guys in charge of 3 companies to make 90% of the money). Florida has a decent population and gets a lot of tourism money, so arguably is subsidized by external funds still.
I think the largest red city in Texas is Lubbock, which is in fact a complete shit hole. You are more than x2 as likely to be a victim of a violent crime in Lubbock than in Austin.
Even if Texas had put all the oil into a sovereign fund, like at least one of the scandanavian states, I don’t think they would come close to beating Alaska, at least not per capita. AK just has way more oil and way fewer people than TX
True I think, I was mostly thinking of lower 48. Texans should have all the quality of life of California, but instead we get toxic sludge basically everywhere and 0 public land to do fun things and see nature in, basically.
Haha well I’m from a blue state, and a socialist. I presume the you here is a royal you applying to Texans who have voted for their own oppression? Even then, better to encourage change than attack those working for it.
‘Voted’; Texan history is one of white supremacist violence extraction bigotry and horror. Fuck em. That culture that identity and its adherents need to go.
If there’s a Mexican family who’s lived there since it was mexico or an indigenous group that somehow survived, I wish them many hugs and some real tacos.
Florida cities are pretty liberal too. Except maybe Jacksonville but that’s nearly In Georgia. And Naples but that’s all expat northerners, and there is nobody more racist than the northerners that move down here.
Cool. It’s also enormous because they decided the whole county was the City of Jacksonville so that’s pretty impressive. Tampa is progressive but if you included all of Hillsborough County we would not be.
That’s not accurate - Florida pays in more than we get back by about 11billion, Texas 68 billion. Because we have idiot government that doesn’t use matching funds for Medicaid, mostly.
California pays 276B more than it receives because it’s an economic engine.
Virginia has the biggest gap in the other direction, receiving 89B more than it pays in.
It’s a lot more mixed than just red or blue - some democratic states are better at leveraging the federal money on behalf of their state.
Last time I checked Florida & Texas were exempt from that particular “all red states” grouping.
Yes, but Texas has 3 major population centers which are all pretty blue, not just Austin, and has benefited from destroying the environment through the sale of oil, which definitely subsidized itself a little (incidentally Texas should be the wealthiest per capita state if they’d socialized their oil sales instead of allowing like 3 guys in charge of 3 companies to make 90% of the money). Florida has a decent population and gets a lot of tourism money, so arguably is subsidized by external funds still.
I think the largest red city in Texas is Lubbock, which is in fact a complete shit hole. You are more than x2 as likely to be a victim of a violent crime in Lubbock than in Austin.
Even if Texas had put all the oil into a sovereign fund, like at least one of the scandanavian states, I don’t think they would come close to beating Alaska, at least not per capita. AK just has way more oil and way fewer people than TX
True I think, I was mostly thinking of lower 48. Texans should have all the quality of life of California, but instead we get toxic sludge basically everywhere and 0 public land to do fun things and see nature in, basically.
Nah, I think you got some fraction of what you deserved.
Haha well I’m from a blue state, and a socialist. I presume the you here is a royal you applying to Texans who have voted for their own oppression? Even then, better to encourage change than attack those working for it.
Ah. You said we.
‘Voted’; Texan history is one of white supremacist violence extraction bigotry and horror. Fuck em. That culture that identity and its adherents need to go.
If there’s a Mexican family who’s lived there since it was mexico or an indigenous group that somehow survived, I wish them many hugs and some real tacos.
Florida cities are pretty liberal too. Except maybe Jacksonville but that’s nearly In Georgia. And Naples but that’s all expat northerners, and there is nobody more racist than the northerners that move down here.
Jacksonville has a Democratic mayor and voted for Biden in 2024 IIRC.
I think you mean Harris
Oh yeah, duh.
Cool. It’s also enormous because they decided the whole county was the City of Jacksonville so that’s pretty impressive. Tampa is progressive but if you included all of Hillsborough County we would not be.
Florida and Texas receive massive federal subsidies, paid for with the taxes generated, primarily, from these blue states.
Sounds like communism.
Hey watch it with that C word… they prefer the other C word… capitalism. That benefits far fewer more important people.
No, when it only ever goes one way its fine.
That’s not accurate - Florida pays in more than we get back by about 11billion, Texas 68 billion. Because we have idiot government that doesn’t use matching funds for Medicaid, mostly.
California pays 276B more than it receives because it’s an economic engine.
Virginia has the biggest gap in the other direction, receiving 89B more than it pays in.
It’s a lot more mixed than just red or blue - some democratic states are better at leveraging the federal money on behalf of their state.