European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said EU is opening the door for Canada to become the first associate member of the 27-member bloc.

Trump threatened to impose tariffs on the European Union or halt trade with the bloc entirely if it proceeds with the plan.

The proposal signals a significant shift in the EU, which had been lukewarm to Germany’s proposal in May of an associate membership for Ukraine.

  • thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de
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    So, let me get this straight

    Trump imposes tariffs on Canada and the EU

    In response Canada and the EU move to have closer ties, including trade

    Trump threatens more tariffs

    …genius

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      Also to annex Canada, which is why he’s seeing Canada strengthening its alliances with everyone but the USA.

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    This tariff talk is so tiring. It is better to just pull from the US market and invest in the rest of the world.

    He can put all the tariffs he wants, the effect on who doesn’t do business in the US will be minimal.

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    Doesn’t this remind us of something? Hmm… what other state wanted to join the EU and faced thread and an hostile reaction by its oversized neighbor?

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      that was because they wanted to join nato. eu by itself would’ve been fine

      edit: this is becoming a dogpile again as often happens on this side of lemmy so no further replies :D

      edit2: i was spot on with that

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        This is kremlin propaganda. Ukrainians didn’t want to join NATO until Russia poked its nose. Maidan of 2013 was about getting closer to EU, not NATO. Btw, that’s why it’s called Euromaidan, not Natomaidan. At that moment only 33% Ukrainians wanted to join NATO. NATO became relevant after Russia annexed Crimea in the Spring of 2014, only after that, in November 2014 over 50% wanted to join NATO. Which is kinda “what did you expected moment” when one of your supposed security guarantor waving finger at another supposed guarantor in response of sovereignty and territorial integrity violation.

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        Yes, I’m sure Russia would allow Ukraine to join EU. It’s not like the war started because Ukraine was distancing itself from Russia and getting closer to EU. Not at all.

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              just wait till u find out what the united states does to countries it doesn’t like or deems a security threat

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                Declare a “special operation” against the major holders of their debt ?

                Remember than last time the US shutdown, military in Europe were told to go to eat to the soup kitchens…

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                And NATO.

                Russia using potential NATO membership as an excuse to invade Ukraine is just that, an excuse. Ukraine was turning west, and Russia couldn’t accept that.

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                  i mean finland had extensive security guarantees from nato countries, eu article 42.7 and a strong military, while russia was fighting in ukraine

                  if those weren’t a thing, there would’ve been problems, like in ukraine

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        NATO was the overt reason, EU was implied. NATO would offer security, but EU also does and economic prosperity on top of that.

        The real reason is an imperialistic attitude that clings to the notion that Ukraine shouldn’t be an independent state.

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    Who is even trading with the US anymore? He is doing his best to piss of all the major trade partners of the US, and everyone still trading with them is constantly going to have to worry about whether the manchild is throwing a tariff tantrum again.

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      Everyone. The US is a huge and important market and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Let’s not be delusional.

      I expect companies will see trading with the US as more of a risk now, and take measures like requiring a premium, but trade with the US will continue, just by the sheer size of the US market.

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        Absolutely.

        Continuity is extremely important in trade relations. If I plan to tie my economy to yours I want to be certain that the rules of those ties won’t suddenly change. That’s not the case with the USA anymore; that’s one side of the coin.

        The other side is that the USA are a big market that has, until recently, been fairly reliable. There’s a lot of money to be made by dealing with them and there are a lot of established relations that would be expensive to change. In some cases companies can’t even pivot to other markets as their business is too specific.

        So trade will continue but the States are no longer guaranteed to be the preferred partner. Especially when making new trade deals the USA no longer get the benefit of goodwill. Previously they could argue that signing a deal with them meant decades of reliable access to a large, stable, and prosperous market and that a few unfavorable tradeoffs are worth it. Now they can’t even guarantee that the deal won’t be unilaterally canceled within months or that their market has much purchasing capacity. As a result everyone else is much more inclined to seek alternate trade deals and play hardball when the USA come to negotiate.

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      US is the second biggest economy in the world. You can’t just completely ignore it.