• OminousOrange@lemmy.ca
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    21 hours ago

    It’s kind of amazing how people will continue to vote for people who create policy that is proven to be ineffective at best and directly harmful at worst.

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      20 hours ago

      Yesterday my buddy who barely works and doesn’t do overtime said: “poivrière said he would reduces taxes on overtime, I want that - why wouldn’t I vote for him?” I don’t blame my buddy, and we avoid discussing politics, but these people are short-sighted and cannot be saved.

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        8 hours ago

        If he really hates paying taxes he really should find a country that has low/zero taxes. I will never get over the argument about how people hate taxes and try to argue that we need to get rid of them.

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          18 hours ago

          He lives out in the sticks, I can’t undo 15 years of skipping out on education (he’s 38).

          I do argue it in moderation, but I prefer to tackle critical thinking in general, and hope he learns to draw his own conclusions. He recently got over that the earth is not flat and that those conspiracies don’t hold water. He’s even starting to identify content on tiktok that is framed in a certain way.

          Maybe we’ll get there one day!

          Edit: Tbf he’s a mechanic, and a good one at that, so flat earth was an easy topic. He managed to understand we can’t make oldschool carburators with flat earth physics, and he knows how those work. It’s like if I tried to convince him displacement in an engine isn’t real, just invented by big oil.

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            20 hours ago

            He recently got over that the earth is not flat

            jfk, my comrade in crisis, you have the patience of a saint.

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              10 hours ago

              I would highly recommend watching the documentary Behind the Curve.
              It follows a group of flat earthers. It’s a really good watch, a bit depressing. Gives you a look at how these people, who aren’t always the stupid people we think they are, got to where they are. How their lives and social connections start falling apart because of their belief in a flat earth. And at the end, how some of them realised they were wrong.

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                10 hours ago

                If I recall it was mostly simping over a crazy lady with mental illnesses and no mental chillnesses

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                  9 hours ago

                  Not really how I recall it, but I watched it during the height of lockdown…so my memory of that time is absolutely going to be full of more holes than a cheese grater…

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            19 hours ago

            God I would love to see a flat earther realize and admit they’ve been wrong this whole time.

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              19 hours ago

              Imo that only feels good when it’s someone who actively causes harm with their stupidy and they finally get justice. In this case I consider it to be more sad than anything else; it’s a function of his upbringing, not who he is.

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                Well I don’t want them to feel bad, I just want to see it so I know that it actually happens and my faith in humanity can be slightly restored.