• Sleepless One@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    24 hours ago

    The only wrong part of this meme is the implication that burgers would even try to not blame foreign meddling.

  • 🏴 hamid the villain [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    No you don’t understand, it wasn’t 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.

    • Samsuma@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      24 hours ago

      You don’t understand, the U.S. was sold to Russia in 2016, then it was reclaimed and thanklessly saved by our harm-reduction, lesser-evilism enjoyer (very wholesome), then it was hopelessly sold back again to Russia just recently…

    • TheFogan@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      had the native american’s been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean… none of this mess would have happened.

      • Geodad@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Powhatan should have 💀 them as they came ashore. That’s one thing I would fix with a time machine.

  • JVT038@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    2 days ago

    Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    23
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    It’s not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here …

    • Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        I’d like to point out that I’m european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.

        • Funkytom467@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 days ago

          When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.

          Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.

          What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn’t new…

          The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.

          • dawnglider@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            21 hours ago

            I wouldn’t expect anyone to deny the existence of corruption or abuse of power, but I think the corrupting influence of power is often used to justify in retrospect the acts of people put into power to do exactly that. It might sound pedantic to say that CEOs or state officials aren’t really “corrupt”, because they rarely ever intend to represent the interests of the workforce or population, but really it’s a total inversion of causality. They don’t “betray” because they got in power, they got in power to “betray”.

            On an interesting sidenote, it also goes against the common misconception that any form of authority ultimately leads to corruption, since those same CEOs and officials seem to stay pretty loyal.

            • Funkytom467@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              19 hours ago

              Exact, and I believe most forms of power incentives bad actions and the worse individual to take it.

              Wich would entail it comes from our nature, dictating the properties of power.

              Good actions done by CEOs or the ones being loyal seems to me is coming from another facet of us.