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    What about the fact that it’s ok if deliveries are slower? How many of the things that people buy online, whether from Amazon or not, actually need to be same day or next day? If there were options for “just sometime in the next month”, I’d chose that.

    Of course, I understand that be a logistics nightmare to schedule, I’m only making the argument that delivery speed is a more a luxury than necessity. As is Amazon itself.

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      Not to mention that theres almost always enough order volume for a bulk same-day delivery. Id imagine theres enough orders for 30+ deliveries in a 4 block radius on any given day

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        I avoid Amazon but when I do make the mistake of ordering from them, they literally hold my order until the delivery date. It’s effectively same day every time, to encourage me to buy Prime.

        They also deliver 24 hours a day here. Multiple vans daily. It’s all a farce to avoid paying their fair share.

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    $600 a year… on extra delivery costs on the average household?

    … How much are americans ordering online?

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      I’ve gotten spoiled by grocery delivery, but usually stick to the $25 minimum as best as possible and find that in the end I’m spending far less than wandering the grocery store.

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      USA Amazon user. A lot. But I have better financials than many.

      Example: Cat litter that we prefer comes in 25lb boxes. Why lug that when it can come to your door? I don’t think my spouse could even lift it due to an injury. But I feed the Bezos machine and I’m not proud of it.

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    Nit. We seriously need to divorce benefits from employment. Especially healthcare. I still hear people say the company pays $X for my healthcare. No fuck they do not. You have a total compensation package that includes the cash part of your salary as well as how much of what could have been your cash part was diverted to pay for healthcare. Have you ever been handed a piece of paper where they itemize your pay? You get $40k and then there’s another line where it says $10k for healthcare etc so they really pay you $50k? Well on the one hand that’s true. The company pays you. You pay for everything else. You just don’t see all of it. They usually give you that paper during raise time to justify lower raises.

    We need a mental shift in this country. People need to stop believing companies give you stuff.

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    What he is really saying is that he can’t offer the same level of service at the same cost - and still maintain his OBSCENE profit margin.

    I’m tired of these Sociopathic Oligarchs acting like they are entitled to those ridiculous levels of profit, and any “solutions” we suggest need to preserve their profits FIRST, then somehow solve our problems after that.

    No, those outrageous profits are the EXACT problem. Those profits should have been shared by the workers who earned them, instead of going 100% to the guy at the top who did literally nothing to earn it.

    So he will maintain the same level of service, at the same costs, and he will just have to buy one less yacht, or private jet, or Italian Palazzo this year.

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    I’m all for going back to a time when we used to leave the house to go searching for something and only sent away for what we couldn’t find, but could wait for.

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    This just in…Billionaire-Owned Media Corporations Report Positively on Billionaires! MP4 at eleven. /s

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    Scaling that down by a factor of 50,000, it’s like having a net worth of $5.52 million, and a boat worth $10,000. You spent $1,100 on your wedding and bought your wife a ring worth $100.

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    What he’s actually saying is, “I won’t spend the money to provide the level of service we have been up to this point.” Because there’s nothing Mamdani has done here that will cost jobs or slow delivery times - Jeff is the one cutting jobs and slowing delivery times. Maybe New Yorkers will just stop shopping Amazon when they downgrade their services, that wouldn’t be a bad thing.

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    fox news was always billionaire propaganda, culture war is thier side business to reinforced the billionaire propaganda.

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    Amazon != Jeff Bezos. For quite a while now. The current CEO of Amazon is the issue.

    And Jeff Bezos is just a piece of shit by nature, as he has not even have to impress investors anymore. He is an ass, because he can.

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      He’s the executive chairman and largest shareholder.

      Amazon still does what he wants. He just doesn’t have to deal with day to day.

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        • Jeff Bezos has roughly 884 million shares. The Top 10 shareholders range from 31-192 billion shares.
        • Jeff Bezos is the Executive Chair of the Board. The board has no executive power over a corporation. The CEO is the executing position.
        • The board of directors consists of 7 people in total.

        This makes me believe he has way less power over such decisions compared to when he was CEO.

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            This is true, and we also can see how much power investors have versus the board, if you look at the Sam Altman and OpenAI hickup.

            So while technically the board picks the CEO, the power lies within the top 10 shareholders. And Bezos is not one of them.

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              Fair enough. TBH I’ll still blame him for this kind of thing just for hoarding all that wealth, let alone the fact that he created the company in the first place.

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    If Amazon can’t operate a delivery business without blatantly exploiting workers and “subcontractors” (between brackets because the subcontractors don’t operate independent at all), then they shouldn’t operate a delivery business. Leave it to the companies that do respect worker’s rights.

    The exploitative system that Amazon wants to maintain:
    *As the mayor’s office said Monday, at least 11 last-mile facilities have opened across New York City since 2020, with subcontractors running the warehouses as Amazon directs the hiring of delivery drivers, the routes they use, and requires them to use Amazon-branded vehicles and uniforms.

    But while exerting control over the deliveries, Amazon pushes responsibility for the vehicles used onto the subcontractors, as delivery workers explained in a video released on social media by Mamdani on Monday.

    “When injuries and worker accidents skyrocket, Amazon says they have nothing to do with it. They can’t have it both ways,” said the workers.*
    https://www.commondreams.org/news/delivery-protection-act-nyc

    We had a similar situation in my country (Belgium) a few years back, where the most exploitative delivery company was PostNL. The government raided and seized their warehouses for a good while, locked up a few executives for a shorter while, and then unfortunately failed to get convictions, so only administrative fines were handed out. Even though there were no significant fines, it did scare the sector and working conditions have improved since then, which anecdotally had the following consequences: shops offer choices when it comes to delivery (fake next day delivery is no longer standard, but requires a premium), cost per order went up a tiny bit (no more free delivery for small orders + next day delivery is more expensive), and deliveries became more reliable again (delivery time tables are easier to accomplish for the workers if they’re not mathematically impossible).

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      “subcontractors” (between brackets because the subcontractors don’t operate independent at all),

      Not to be that guy but those are quotes, not brackets.

      You’re right the system is so fucked. I hope it gets better in the USA, our labor practices are exploitative and basically you have to find a good company to work for then you feel stuck because you don’t want to leave for what may be a worse situation. Our healthcare and vacation time and retirement funding are all controlled by our employer (for most people) so that’s just one more thing they hold us hostage with.

      Your English is really good, if you didn’t say you were from Belgium I’d say you were a native speaker. Well, I guess your education system doesn’t suck when it comes to language and you learn English early on so maybe you basically are a native speaker (or expat).

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      It’s called a ‘sham contract’ and are (mostly) illegal in Australia, but are still pretty rife. The driving school I used to work for basically had that set-up, which was why I didn’t stick around.

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    I genuinely see the point and I think the argumentation that he can afford it is also sound. But the flaw is that Bezos will just hand off the cost to consumers. This won’t affect his income or wealth at all. We need measures that target anti competitive behaviors and monopoly building as well as taxing people that have way too much.

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      That’s the thing though, the price will not go to the consumer. People use Amazon for the convenience and the fact that it is often cheaper than going to the store yourself.

      If suddenly it’s more expensive than the store it really incentives going to the store. And that is precisely why prices will remain the same.

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      Too big to fail just also happens to be too big to care.

      Competition is good for the consumer and keeps prices low automatically.

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        Competition is so rarely a thing though. The barriers to entry are significant enough that if you actually go through them all… why wouldn’t you just price shop and then charge about the same as your “competitors”? You don’t need to talk to effectively collude.

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          That’s entirely dependant on the economy. If the average consumer is doing well then what you are saying does happen.

          But if they are not doing well financially, like right now, then stores begin to compete more. I’m starting to see this locally myself in grocery prices. Some things are actually coming down slightly, at least for the moment. I expect with the increasing price of diesel prices will skyrocket again, but maybe we’ll get lucky and companies will have to eat the cost this time. Everyone is so broke right now they may not be able to pass the cost on

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      Of course he’ll hand the cost off to consumers. As if his wedding yacht ring, like everything else he does, wasn’t directly financed primarily by his consumer-facing business!

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      Retail isn’t as easy to maintain a monopoly as most industries. The moment Amazon gets more expensive than the next guy, the whole thing falls apart.

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        Read up on prime and why that only works to bind customers as long as you are the biggest in the market. Also the price increase still hits all the online shops, so whatever Amazon’s competitive advantage is still in place.

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    They really have an attitude to shift shit like this on the people instead of taking good Business strategies up