It started as a stupid project cause I was bored. How much can you actually do without a windowing environment?
After finding out how to post to lemmy from a TTY, I realized that I can do most things I do daily using text.
Browsing the web in links, which opens all sorts of files in the corresponding programs if configured correctly.
Opening images in fbi, PDFs in fbpdf, listening to music in cmus, watching movies in mplayer, using e-mail in alpine, creating documents in vim and latex, …
The only thing that still requires a GUI is image editing and a few websites I need that don’t work without JavaScript.
And it’s actually really nice…more focused, without loading times, animations, popups, ads, or other distractions, and everything is scriptable.
Anyway, sorry for the blog post.
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Fuck you, you really made me check on my phone if all my text looks like this :(
(Your comment showed up “fine”, by the way)Yes, I think I will. Not exclusively, of course. But starting Firefox in Wayland just takes a key combo and 5 seconds if needed.

Starting Firefox takes 5 seconds? I start thinking I need to optimise if it takes more than 2
It takes 5 seconds when the PC has to start up a wayland compositor, first.
What wayland compositor do you use for that? Have you tried
cage
?I use Gnome.
I’ve found
cage
to be really convenient when you want to run a single app from a tty. 5s to start gnome + ff is pretty good, though. Not sure how cage would compare.See, that’s another great thing about this experiment: I get to discover all kinds of cool new tools.
Thanks for that, looks exactly like what I need.
You’re following the Unix philosophy.
And I understand why some people are fonts enthusiasts, now.
On the console, you only have 256 colors and 1 font to customize your “desktop”.
How about a console with cursive writing font? That’s probably the reason why it’s named cursive. Because of all the curses of the users.
You can Install more fonts, but not all of them are any good.
Forget gpus. A framebuffer is all you need :)
I may get hate for this, but… I do this a fair bit because I prefer TUIs for a lot of stuff, and also end up doing a lot of things in emacs because I usually have it open anyway…
Legendary video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcL86UpqZc
Thank you for this.
aerc
is going to save my sanity.It’s awesome. Seeing aerc getting an update always makes me smile.
And it actually lets me set up multiple IMAP/SMTP accounts without sacrificing a chicken to the Unix Philosophers.
I wouldn’t recommend skipping the offering, but purely from a technical standpoint it is unnecessary.
Are there any non-JavaScript websites left?
Surprisingly, a lot. And usually they’re the more informative and less commercial ones.
Most websites that only show a “please enable Javascript” banner I just leave again. Very few I do need, for those I have a key combo that starts a window manager with maximized Firefox on another TTY.Not OP, but some of them have non-JS version, in addition to the regular JS version; but yeah, a lot of sites are broken.
Wikipedia
Okay, I’ve wanted to do the same thing for ages. Time to follow up my words with action!
Welcome back to 1985 I guess. Now you’re going to need a green phosphor CRT and a dot matrix printer.
I’d prefer a dot matrix printer over whatever the fuck HP makes now.
I doubt it. They make a hell of a noise and print at a rate of characters per second not pages per second. The ribbons suffered from similar issues as cassette tapes (the other ribbons that we had to deal with). The ribbon would dry out if not used for a few days and you’d waste paper and a lot of time.
DM printers were ideal in the guise of “line printers” - the big old IBM jobbies that munched through A3 landscape fan fold at ridiculous speeds. Home printers like the Epson FX80 or RX80 were at least affordable. I still remember the manual of our RX80 congratulating us on buying it and exhorting me to hug the printer on unpacking it. I suspect the Japanese to English translation might not have been the best.
We had to get a Centronics interface board stuffed into our C64 and get it working (sacrifice a chicken on a waxing gibbous moon night, etc)
It worked better on my 80286 box, some years later. I had to set it up in each application - Harvard Graphics, Word Perfect, Super Calc.
In around 1991 I was able to buy a 80486 based beastie, thanks to gift from granddad. In around 1993 I was given a HP LJ 4P so I could print out proofs for a Plymouth (Devon) tourist tat thing.
Nowadays I have a fairly elderly HPE MFP five toner humming away at home. Its on a VLAN that doesn’t get to see the internet. It just works. I won’t be “upgrading” it for the foreseeable future.
My mom used to have an epson lx-300+ printer for her small shop, and it was awesome. We printed a lot of stuff and the ribbon lasted for ages. This was my only experience with dot matrix printers, and it was a nice one.
Nowt wrong with a tty interface. All you need is a gif->ASCII converter and you can view the images too.
The default video output device of a Linux TTY is the framebuffer.
I have no issues viewing images and PDF documents, or watching videos.
it’s all just curling some jsons and slapping some paint and shit on top of that.
Sometimes it’s nice to put the ADHD away and just have simple fucking interfaces without all the stupid distractions.
This was my exact experience browsing the Social Media on gemini:// – it was glorious how less can actually be more.
I’d love to put the ADHD away sometimes :(
Lol so cool. My fav text apps are toot for mastodon and maybe gomuks or iamb for matrix/element. Also what Lemmy app r u using?
I’m just using the Links browser and fbi for the images.
Does feddit.org work without JS? Does this depend on the front-end that the instance uses?
The standard frontend doesn’t let you log in without JS, but on old.feddit.org it works.
Same with the other instances I tested.Thanks
I’d love to be able to ditch the gui entirely, I’ve found working from a TTY really helps me focus on the actual work I’m supposed to be doing
Unfortunately the one impossible hurdle is the web browser. Have kinda got around the need for it mostly with an llm cli for basic questions but will always find myself needing to fire up a window manager just to get a browser eventually
Also doesn’t help that I’m primarily a web developer
cage
is a minimalist Wayland compositor that only shows a single application in fullscreen. When you close the app, it drops you back to your console.
It’s compatible with programs that need X11 through XWayland, and it has practically no loading times.cage -ds firefox
would open Firefox in fullscreen.
Option-d
hides client-side decorations and-s
allows you to switch from Wayland to another TTY using Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6]I put aliases for the programs I use in my .bashrc so I can just type FF[Enter] and a second later I have Firefox open.
Ah that’s useful to know, I’ve been using gamescope for that but it’s a bit overkill
always find myself needing to fire up a window manager just to get a browser eventually
A chromeless tiling WM is basically invisible and AFAIK has almost zero performance impact. That’s roughly what I do.
I usually use gamescope for that purpose but it’s still a bit of a pain and takes me out of the tmux/helix loop
What about the Lynx browser…it’s TTY isn’t it…?
yes it only shows the filename of an image. But you can set it up to open images in an external image viewer when you click on it.
Tried browsh ?
Your post made me wonder, so I checked and of course it exists. Behold, a text-mode Lemmy client: Neon Modem Overdrive