Burning a Quran because you hate Muslims is bigoted but burning a Quran (or any holy text) because the priestly class is how the ruling class maintains control over the working class in almost every society and religion is tool of oppression is a chad move.
The bacon thing is a dead giveaway that this is bigotry.
And burning a Qur’an because it’s old and you need to dispose of it is just the way Muslims use to do it.
Everything that I’ve ever read has been that Qurans are kept essentially forever or buried in some traditions. Like, verses from the Quran in other publications will be printed specifically not in Arabic so the magazine or newspaper can be discarded at the end.
Yes, you shouldn’t just discard it, specially if it is the Qur’an (100% arabic without any additions), because that is considered the word of god. But even for those it is considered the respectful way to either burn or bury them.
Any book that also contains translations or tafsir (comments for context) is not even considered to be the Qur’an, and the rules about only touching them while pure don’t apply. Some might still treat it the same way, because it’s important to them though.
Personally I don’t think they actually did burn the Quran I think they just got a picture, otherwise they’ve gone out and bought a purchased with their own money, how many times are they going to do that.
I think you may be overestimating the intelligence levels of people who do this shit. They will spend stupid amounts of money on troll acts.
True, but the fact that the photo is actually a decent photo is evidence against.
Especially if they’re content creators trying for subscribers
These are the people who smashed Keurig machines and burned items that they owned.
Also, most of them don’t look like the kind of person that would waste bacon grease.
That’s some good quality hair gel been put to waste.
Good god i love how lefty lemmy can be sometimes lol
both are bigotry actually. Theology is a discipline, almost as old as mathematics. It predates classes to begin with. EDIT: edited a word.
Theology is a discipline, almost as old as mathematics. It predates classes to begin with.
BULLSHIT.
The theocrat was the original ‘high class’. The priests have been grifting the commons since day one. All knowing, all loving, all powerful god, WHO SOMEHOW NEEDS TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS?
theology is a discipline of grift and deceiving the masses.
WHO SOMEHOW NEEDS TEN PERCENT OF MY EARNINGS?
zakat is actually 2.5% of your hoarded (for a whole year) money that exceeds 87.48 grams of gold, given to the poor. Shouldn’t that actually be a means to elimination of class ?
give money to the poor any day. giving it to a church, temple, mosque etc., is just ignoring the truly needy.
They ask you, [O Muhammad], what they should spend. Say, “Whatever you spend of good is [to be] for parents and relatives and orphans and the needy and the traveler. And whatever you do of good - indeed, Allah is Knowing of it.” 1
I know right?
just like christians and the good samaritan - they know it’s part of their core beliefs but… ¯_ (ツ)_/¯ they choose to keep giving money to anyone but the ones who truly need it.
why is it so hard for believers to actually hew to the values their beliefs are built around? so strange… it’s like, they believe in an all powerful deity but somehow think he won’t notice them ignoring the needy?
and it’s not all believers. goodness knows. but so many…
Are you using “Tu Quoque” here? basing on a “Hasty Generalization” I assume ?
If you’re basing on Saudi Arabia or UAE, please notice that you’re basing on a country that is pro Israel, meaning literally invaded.
Huh seems like you need that to be the truth 🤷♂️
Doesn’t sound particularly progressive. 87g of gold is like $10k and it’s a flat rate. Empirically there are plenty of Muslim billionaires anyway, so it ain’t working. Would be interesting to tot up billionaires per capita by religion but I don’t think it would be particularly meaningful because the US skews everything, and how “practicing” someone is of their religion is impossible to measure.
Just the normalizaton of this practice is good ngl.
If a billionaire donates 2.5% of his money out of their goodwill they get bunch of supporters and tax breaks and people forget allegation on how they raped someone and so on.
Meanwhile even kings, who could do whatever the fuck at the time, were expected donate at least 2.5% in 600s.
More progressive taxing can not only be justified in hindsight of modern capitalism, but can become commonplace and expected too.
Also unrelated but not a single king quit being royalty because they had to donate 2.5% of their ownings so that “taxing the billionaires would unmotivate people to start business” was absolute bs for a good 1400 years lmao.
Under an Islamic rule, the Muslim is forced to do this donation. And Muslim billionaires are not all of a sudden all pious because they have this label. Islamic law doesn’t eliminate the need to study politics and sociology you know. Many Muslim scholars, claimed that it could in fact end the poverty in the Islamic world if really all obliged muslims paid their zakat (which is a requirement for Islam, not like a side quest, and should be enforced legally), among them Dr. Abd Al-Rahman bin Hamood Al-Sumait a humanitarian. This might appeal to you?: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2017/jun/22/zakat-requires-muslims-to-donate-25-of-their-wealth-could-this-end-poverty
“Doesn’t eliminate the need to study sociology”. Well, quite.
How exactly is it a science? A philosophical persuit? Most definitely and a very serious one at that. But a science? Not sure how the scientific method applies
ngl, I had to google to realize that English word “science” doesn’t encapsulate things like mathematics, law, literature…ect. I used a literal translation here, mah bad. I should’ve said discipline or study here. Thanks for pointing it.
Unfortunately, this happens in English alot. Well have five words to discuss a concept, but all slightly differently and they’re not interchangeable
haven’t you ever heard of christian science? it’s not science either, by scientific standards, but believers LOVE to muddy the waters and cast their FAITH as something tangible, provable, worthy of science.
It’s all a distraction, again, from actual science.
provable
yes, theologians argue that logic is enough to prove the existence of God: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam_cosmological_argument
If you refute logic/reason cuz you only like science that you experiment on, then you’re too caught in the material buddy. Remember that math doesn’t seem to follow the scientific method either you know ? Please don’t tell me you refute it too.I notice that the word I know in my language kalam is a little different from theology, but theology is the closest translation I have.
theologians argue that logic is enough to prove the existence of God
they have to. science keeps painting ‘god’ into a smaller and smaller corner every day.
Remember that math doesn’t seem to follow the scientific method either you know
LOLOLOL
it’s repeatedly provable, stood the test of time, like the scientific method, it’s consistency and reproducibility weigh much more than philosophy stack exchange k thnks.
this really isn’t a discussion I’m interested in continuing.
they have to. science keeps painting ‘god’ into a smaller and smaller corner every day.
I feel like I know who you’re quoting, and I remember encountering: https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-debate-hawkings-idea-that-the-universe-had-no-beginning-20190606/
to quote the part that appeals to me:In their 2017 paper (opens a new tab), published in Physical Review Letters, Turok and his co-authors approached Hartle and Hawking’s no-boundary proposal with new mathematical techniques that, in their view, make its predictions much more concrete than before. “We discovered that it just failed miserably,” Turok said. “It was just not possible quantum mechanically for a universe to start in the way they imagined.” The trio checked their math and queried their underlying assumptions before going public, but “unfortunately,” Turok said, “it just seemed to be inescapable that the Hartle-Hawking proposal was a disaster.”
Mathematics is all about developing logical tools. Basically things like “if we start with this assumption, then you can make this conclusion”. After you’ve developed all of these tools, then you can look at the universe around you and apply those tools to your observations in order to come to new conclusions about that same universe. There necessarily needs to be that input that ties it back to reality. Mathematics on its own doesn’t tell us anything about reality.
idk, it seems to have described so much about the universe with so few input. And can just study itself like in “Gödel’s incompleteness theorems” to give constraints on what you aspire to achieve with it. I’d call math/logic/reason fairly strong by themselves.
with so few input
Yes, few inputs. Not none.
I’d call math/logic/reason fairly strong by themselves.
What does strong mean in this context? It’s a very useful tool. No one is denying that. It just doesn’t tell us anything about the universe without input from that same universe.
Nothing really predates classes. Classes existed since the first civilizations on Earth. You might be claiming it predates capitalism and that’s definitely true but the ruling/working class divide is much older than capitalism.
I tried to discuss with ChatGPT and he suggested:
The San (Bushmen) of southern Africa believed in a creator deity and spirits of the dead.
Does this work as a counter example ?
Having a belief system is different from having a religion. Organized religion likely came about out of the need to legitimize power structures (otherwise, why the hell would the populace, which outnumber the ruling class, not fight back against their injustices?)
You are right that the San seem to have a classless (or, as wikipedia describes it, egalitarian) society. So it works as a counter-example to my claim that “nothing predates classes”.
otherwise, why the hell would the populace, which outnumber the ruling class, not fight back against their injustices
I don’t really know, seems like something that “Political Sociology” treats. Experiments (like the popular Stanford prison experiment) were done on multiple frameworks, and suggest so many variables to explain division among people of same class. Restricting interpretation to religion (while there are so many belief systems) seems to me like oversimplification. Like We had secular states eventually, and it’s not like classes vanished, or authoritarian regimes stopped being.
In my personal opinion, the division is the most interesting aspect of why people fail to do anything about their (our actually) miserable state. Because when you know that doing a protest leads you to receive sexual violence (rape using electricity&pipes) from the prison guard (who is actually from the same class as you), and the people for whom you did protest will just denounce you for doing “chaos” in the “peaceful” country, it makes sense that you wouldn’t bother.
Here I’m thinking about the current Egyptian regime, which has a documented historical relationship with Soviet / Russian security methods (training, organization, approach of secret policing).Why people are deceived by scholars of the palace? That would buffle me for eternity when The Prophet of Islam said:
“The most feared thing I fear for my Ummah — community — are the misguided leaders and corrupt scholars.”
“When knowledge is sought for other than Allah, it will be removed from the people until only the scholars of evil remain.”
(Ibn Majah, al-Tabarani — meaning: those who use knowledge for power or wealth.)
“The best jihad is a word of truth before a tyrannical ruler.”
(Sunan al-Nasa’i, Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi)
His grandson Also died refusing to accept the undemocratic rule of monarchy (in before there used to be a system of election after the Prophet’s death): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husayn_ibn_Ali#Uprising
ps: the Wikipedia article isn’t the best, but I just want to bring the revolutionary aspect of my religion to your attention.
Its always jarring to see bigots disgrace just the Quran and Islam.
I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology and commit nearly identical atrocities as any radical Islamic Jihadist.
Tbf the problem was always race rather than religion.
Well yeah. Hate directed towards Muslims is 99% hate against brown people in a thinly veiled disguise.
I’ve always said both Christianity and Islam are my enemy. Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids. The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago. I think Islam still needs that lesson.
Regardless, fuck them both. Sky daddy worshipping death cults.
The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago
My dude, are you seeing what’s happening in the US? What types of people are most passionately supporting Israel?
Shit, are you seeing the rampant rise of the far right accross Europe and Australia and some of their biggest backers?
That shit ain’t happening because of Muslims. The Christian Jihadists are back and are making serious gains.
Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist, much in the same way that Christianity was treated in the West all the way up to 2015.
Ah well, I guess there’s still Istanbul, and I guess the West can still potentially pull themselves away from the right-wing christian fundamentalism they’re currently embracing
Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist
Celebrating the Shah’s Iran for it’s secularism is a bit like celebrating Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for it’s capitalism.
I thought that happened in '79
The Shah of Iran couped the democratic government in 1953 and enacted a brutal military dictatorship that was not overthrown until '79.
oh, sorry. I just saw some hippie photos from the 70s and assumed it was a liberal/secular place around then until 79
It’s a big country. There’s corners that are still liberal/secular today and there’s corners that have never been.
But there’s a hagiography around the dictatorship that suggests a few women in bikinis on the beach represented the entire social state of the Shah’s reign. You don’t see pictures of the torture dungeons or the armed insurgents or the clashes between police and civilians published regularly in Western media.
Yeah this worries me a lot at the minute. There’s a concerted effort to push christianity back in front of the levers of power and it disgusts me. I mean, have you ever tried to read the bible? It’s complete nonsense (nonce-sense?).
Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids.
Religious institutions have been at the foundation of modern scientific scholarship for centuries. Meanwhile, merely avoiding a formal religious indoctrination does nothing to improve your education or steer you clear of superstition.
And there’s no shortage of apostate child fuckers. Epstein’s island had academics and influencers of every stripe.
Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago
To the secular financial system, where all the child fucking happens.
You’ll grow up from that phase.
Not sure, I’m nearly 40. Felt this way since I was old enough to have an opinion. But I hear that sentiment a lot, as religious people think being a cultist is a default position… its not. Kids are just indoctrinated.
I’m an atheist but I realized like 5 years ago that sweeping generalisations are problematic and often the result of being indoctrinated, religiously or through social media.
A lot of them would have you imprisoned if they had your way. It’s become painfully obvious to me, especially with everything happening with the yank christofascists, that there are a lot of religious wackos out there kept in check by secularism. They’d had you under the boot heel in a second if they could.
I never understood the base level of acceptance theism has when they keep doing evil things, every time they get power. Religion isn’t your friend.
Well Islam is an offshoot of Christianity, so it makes sense that they’re basically the same thing.
I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology
Literally identical bibliography up to a point. The Bible is a sacred text within Islam as well (although not in any condition an American evangelical could stomach reading, on account of it not being in English).
It’s the interpretation that drives a wedge between them. Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet, but reject the Nicean Creed (just like Jews).
commit nearly identical atrocities
The idea that religion causes atrocities requires a particular blindness to cataclysmic violence during secular eras. It’s not religion that’s getting Dems and Repubs alike to sponsor the Israeli genocide of Palestine, for instance. This is entirely rooted in the geopolitics of the oil trade through the Suez Canal.
Fear, bigotry, misinformation, and the mass hysteria of modern warfare are fully decoupled from secular traditions. Atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens have been as zealous in their advocacy of this barbarism as dogmatic Catholics and Muslims, like Pope Francis and Salman al-Dayah have been advocates for peace.
The idea that you can eliminate war through apostasy went out the window 60 years ago, during the height of the Soviet Era. War has an entirely materialist causation.
You can at least draw a picture of Jesus without being murdered.
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You can draw a picture of Mohammed without being murdered. Do it now. I promise you you’ll be fine.
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There never has existed any rules in Christianity about drawing Jesus in any way being a no no. Shitty comparison.
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The fundamentalist Christians of the USA disappeared someone because they had a meme of fat JD Vance. The same people who turn around and tell the country God is king and Christians are facing genocide from a nonexistent communist deep state. Same ones who fully support Israel’s genocide in Palestine and emperial war to make Greater Israel so the Christian version of the apocalypse can begin.
So no, the world isn’t safe from radical Christians. We’re actually more in danger now than we have been in quite some time.
Didn’t say it was. But I can think of a few dead cartoonist that might have a different view.
Both relgion need to go. But seeing people Islam because they hate christans more pisses me off.
I’m not defending Islam.
I’m saying we’re fooling ourselves if we’re suggesting that radical Christians aren’t a colossal threat just as radical Muslims are.
In many ways, they’re actually a greater threat to the West because they hold power here. Muslims generally don’t, in comparison.
And again, I invite you to see the source of so many of Israel’s weapons they use to commit genocide and illegally attack their neighbors.
Its widely Christian Zionists in America.
There is no need to compare bigoted religions. However, if you want to do so Islam comes out as the more bigot and violent hands down. Look at the punishment for apostasy or homosexuality as an example.
Sure, it is a minority religion in the west, thankfully, so it is less of a problem compared to Christianity from a selfish, west centric view. However from a general perspective of how religion is used to oppress and control other people Islam is pretty much where Christianity was 3 centuries ago.
Yes, many people hate Islam because they want their bigoted religion not to be threatened, or because Islam is practiced by people too brown for their racism, but this doesn’t mean that every time someone criticizes Islam for the many, many reasons that it deserves to be criticized, people need to jump to defend it.
What is even more shocking is that this regularly happens in communities where using the wrong pronoun is considered a capital sin, but somehow defending a bigoted religion that in some cases leads to the hanging of homosexuals is fine, as long as it’s a reflex to other bigotry (real or perceived).
I get that. But I feel like people want to pretend that Islam is better are being willfully ignorant
Also thar picture is from the Afghanistan war.
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As an exmuslim, I’m disappointed in this comment section.
islam is NOT your friend. Simping for it just shows that you’re either ignorant or you’re hypocrite with not prinicples. islam, as an ideology is so unbelievably vile that it’s a very strong contender for being the worst ideology in history. Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.
This is not just me making things up, I can literally show you either verses from the quran, sahih hadiths, or both explicitly allow and encourage every single one of these. I’m against bigotry and bigots, however, I am also against those who cover for them. In this case, islam is just as bigoted, if not more bigoted, than the person in the post, and the people covering for islam aren’t any better. I will always stand tall and proud on the side of people who exercise their right to free speech to criticize islam, and expose the religion for what it is, despite the dangers of doing so.
Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.
so the same as every other abrahamic religion?
Sounds like Christianity to me! Judging by the bible that I read 4 times. Literally my second most read book.
I agree with you and would expand that to cover most major religions, particularly the abrahamic ones.
I also think bigotry is evil because it’s blind hatred of anyone belonging to a group. There are decent enough people that are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Admittedly most don’t closely follow their religion (particularly the fucked up parts) – but they still identify as such.
There’s a difference between attacking a belief system and attacking huge, diverse groups of people. Somehow I don’t think Ultra Nuclear’s intent was the former.
Thank you for your perspective, I feel like I hear a lot about exMormon and exCatholic but not much about exIslam
I didn’t realise Muslims were responding to shit like this with “we’re not vampires with garlic idiot.” But I like it.
Lol the best part is that she forces them to learn something.
What’s amazing is that people have time to mind other people’s business.
Bigots are cringe
Religion is also cringe
Male supremacists are also cringe.
Ngl I am a muslim and was thaught it’s valid form of disposing Quran but I still would find it immoral to burn books due to context of Nazis.
tossing it to trash would be disrespectful you know. If someone needs it when you don’t, you can donate it to them.
Donating to a library would be best option definetely.
Libraries are underrated, no matter the society you look at. I remember a post from reddit that mentioned that it can help you if your life is being targeted or something like that.
Some book burners haven’t learned from history
Other book burners want to immitate it.
So he should have eaten the book with some bacon.
I think the lesson is: the friends we made were on the way to the bookburning. Or maybe: life is like a box of burned books? IDK.
Not good for the environment at all. The only acceptable way to dispose of any book or paper is through recycling. Destrying holy books is very juvenile anyways.
It was done to make sure mistakes of Quran’s printing couldn’t be reused by others.
That image looks machine generated… also not good for the environment.
Look, if you stab someone to death because they burned your holy book, maybe stab yourself first pls.
This person doesn’t sound like they’re going to stab anybody. Exactly the opposite, in fact.
Oh no, this wasn’t meant towards the lovely person in the post. I got derailed.
I don’t fuck with the types “oh imma burn dis buk cuz it’s pissing off da muslimps”. But i really don’t think they should be stabbed to death for it.
If you burn a book because you think it will deeply offend others and then feel the need to post it on the internet for rage bait and then you get stabbed by a person you raged with your bait I’m not really going to feel bad.
If they burned a Quran at a protest for sharia law that’s a different story but they literally are just trying to get a reaction out of someone so if they manage to that’s on them
what is this bot response
Why are you burning it?
Cuz it fits nicely on the burning pile with the Bible and the Torah :)
And we’re stirring up religious division because of what reason?
Because we want religious people to divide the heck away from us, post-haste
Bollocks. You know why. Just say it.
Krakatoa?
Some people just hate religion, but there are socialists who genuinely think it’s a conspiracy
because it goes against lemmy.ml ToS of no homophobia, no sexism, etc
So because a book that is over 1000 years old goes agains ToS of a few year old lemmy instance, you feel the need to burn it?
Why wouldn’t you just ignore it? I think the real reason might be a different one, and you should probably evaluate your feelings to find that out.
Remember, we all have internalised racism in us, the difference is just how aware we are of it, and how we handle it.
Yeah, the real reason is that the followers of these books want to push their beliefs onto others, turn them into laws, and ignoring them won’t make them go away. In every place where the followers of these books became the majority, the minorities are extremely repressed. The last time we were entirely ruled by those books, it was known as the Dark Ages, but there are several other countries currently living in their own Dark Ages because of the same desert trilogy. That book literally says its followers should kill me and others just because of the way they were born, so fuck it, it deserves no respect from anyone, it has nothing to do with race, it’s 100% religion.
The Qur’an literally teached to not take a life, “whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.” (https://quran.com/al-maidah/32)
All verses about killing disbelievers are in the context of war, of the times when the early Muslims were under attack.
Also, traditionally people of other religions were living a good life under muslim rule, because unlike Christianity, Islam forbids forced conversions.
Yeah, yeah, all these books say do A and don’t do A and the hypocrite choose which he likes better to say which is right and who’s the true Scotsman… theoretical or historical contexts matters little on street-level reality. Meanwhile, I can safely say all the crap I want about Christianism and even wear anti-Christian symbols, however one must watch his back if he does the same with Islam.
So your point is that that people are uneducated and ignore context, and thus books are bad?
And concerning insulting Christians, go to Texas and pee on a cross, then we can talk. Of course you can safely do that where you are, probably because there are not a lot of Christians in your area, but the more of one population there are, the hight the chances that one of them is crazy.
Yeah, the thing you said about Christianity is not true at all in parts of the US.
The last time we were entirely ruled by those books, it was known as the Dark Ages
But that’s a Europe thing you know.
EDIT: actually western Europe.I thought that by always referring to books in the plural, calling it the desert trilogy, and mentioning the Dark Ages, it was obvious that I’m not singling out the burning of the Qur’an as good… in my country, it’s not Muslims who have infected politics and try to push religious law, but a sect of fundamentalist Christians… yet, the laws they want pale in comparison to sharia, so I feel sorry for countries with people on the streets calling for sharia.
only things that I know of “sharia” from Qur’an are:
- one hundred lashes for adultery,
- eighty lashes for accusing chaste women of adultery and failing to produce four witnesses,
- Qisas,
- cutting the hand of the thieves (when very specific conditions are met),
- total prohibition of interest in debt,
- hiraba
I wish you criticize them only if the laws of your country solved these problems efficiently (unless you don’t consider them problems),
And it is kinda strange that you’re hurt when you didn’t have contact with Islam?the laws they want pale in comparison to sharia,
Just not true.
Read Handmaid’s Tale. That’s what Christian nationalists want.
Christianity is just as bad as the rest. Stop carving out an exception.
…you want to ignore sexism? Something something white moderates something
Right so instead it’s much better to get mad about an old book. The Bible is pretty sexist if we’re being honest so maybe we should just burn all of the books.
If we were to burn all books we disagree with, we’d probably have to burn lots of books. But what would that be good for?
Just because you burn a book it doesn’t make disappear the ideas in that book. If you burn Harry Potter books you won’t make J.K. Rowling any poorer, probably the exact opposite, because you’d have to get the book first.
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When ya gonna start on the conservative party?
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not.
You know who founded that instance right. They’re not good people, so getting holy and then thou about a book violating your rules is a bit weird.
Watch out, we’re dealing with a badass.
I thought this we were a bit more cultured, better informed people than reddit, but after reading the amount of ignorant and absolute bigoted comments on this post, apparently we’re definitely not an inch better
Under what circumstances would anyone need to dispose of a book?
When someone dies and it’s part of their estate sale, and nobody wants to buy the book, and bookstores & thrift stores don’t want to receive it as donation?
perhaps if the book degrades to an unusable state
When the christian-fascist regime gets re-elected in 2028 and ICE starts searching peoples houses as every book besides trump-signed bibles are against the law.
Not in the case of books treated as timeless, but we do print a lot of contemporary stuff that is designed to become irrelevant. School books, manuals, law books, phonebooks etc. It traditionally was and still is a convinient form of sharing a lot of information. Computers with dynamically changing content are there to replace it now, but they are yet to do so, and there are good reasons for it.
You just reminded me about 30 years ago when I used to be mormon, we didn’t know it at the time, but all the church leadership from the higher-ups were encouraging everyone to purchase new scriptures and get rid of our old ones. Turns out they had changed a lot of the text to erase past “doctrinal” concepts/faux pas 😳 . Sketchy. Of course they didn’t tell us they changed anything in the scriptures but scholars over the years dug it up and did the comparisons.
I think the last time I saw a phonebook was over 10 years ago.
