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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) on Sunday said Democrats will not focus on impeaching President Trump if they regain a majority in the lower chamber after midterm elections.
“I’ve made clear from the very beginning that our top priority is going to be to drive down the high cost of living,” the House minority leader added.
The House minority leader has lauded Democrats’ push for redistricting nationwide in an effort to pick up additional House seats and signaled that the party will advocate more for working-class Americans, after Democrats saw losses from the key demographic in the 2024 election.
(Obligatory https://readsettlers.org/ )
PS this is low effort memes, I’m not going to defend the meme in the comments - feel free to argue with yourselves
Edit: I’m not american so you’re extra wasting your time arguing 🤷♀️
Nah we’re not doing this “genocide Joe” bullshit again.
“We don’t want Genocide Joe, we want Genocide Trump. Now with even more genocide, and in additional countries!!!”
No one said that.
During the primaries we can and should try to make our voice heard to get the most perfect candidates possible on the ballot. During election we do what we must to prevent sliding further into authoritarianism.
Ok, when is the right time to advocate for positive change as ordained by The Holiness Blarth?
Right now. But this ain’t it.
Whooo boy I kicked the fucking tankie hornet’s nest.
This post is attempting to create a litmus test that no presidential candidate from the left is going to get to the general election adhering to. This is typical Russian/Chinese propaganda, the same type of which was used to turn voters apathetic against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, which undoubtedly resulted in many, many people leaning left to abstain from voting.
We’re not doing that again.
I love when the mouth frothing nazi tells me I’m brainwashed by sinister outsiders into thinking nazis are bad
You got me, total Nazi here.
The reason the nazis were bad is the same reason you’re bad
So yes
You’re a fucking nazi. By any reasonable definition.
I’d say you’re hilariously out of touch with reality, but I’m sure this is just your day job, comrade.
Your beliefs make you a nazi but your behavior makes you a vapid redditor trying to get by on smugness alone
“I would say”
Pathetic loser affectation
Yeah but they’re right. I don’t want to eat anymore maga shit sandwich and gun to the head id rather drink blue dog democrat piss. And yeah we have guns to our head, the government has a big army and now ice and all that. Just gotta vote for the lesser of two evils, it’s the dogpiss system our parents brought us to in order to escape their third world dogshit system. In between elections do the best you can what else can we do? Take up arms against palantir drones? Well, you’re not wrong but I wont be the first one, sorry not sorry.
All those people already murdered by those drones but ‘over there’ and ‘brown’ so this guy is still waiting for the first one
Well im a fat sack of shit who doesn’t have guns so you tell me how much help i would be
Describe to me in detail where I said something that makes me a tankie. Remember, the definition of a tankie is someone who wants to use violence to promote authoritarian communism.
You said positive change/disagreed with them. All it takes
bud the litmus test on this post is literally just “actually go after the criminals who are trying to drag this country to fascism.”
If a politician is unwilling to do even that what the fuck is actually the point of electing them.
I understand you’re fine with genocide abroad, but we’re going to have genocide here if this administration’s Gestappo don’t start receiving funding cuts and limitations on their power.
I dunno. The U.S. is a pretty stupid nation. I could totally see us falling for that bullshit again. You see the fools that are ready to fall for it again all over this platform.
So when is the right time to advocate for positive change as ordained by The Holiness Blarth?
But we really are going to keep doing this, so long as the Democratic party refuses to run actual progressives.
“Don’t fucking bomb foreigners” isn’t a weird thing to be unwilling to compromise on.
I agree and don’t want to support a party that is okay with continuing to meddle in the Middle East.
However, creating a litmus test for liberal voters that results in MAGA candidates being elected who support even worse policy is not the way forward.
Its not the fucking litmus test that lost them the election, it was the fucking candidates unwillingness to fucking meet the moment when the voters were incredibly clear about what their standards were.
You don’t get to decide what other voters standards are. You can only assess what they are and the advocate for candidates to meet those standards, otherwise, the candidates will lose. Its not more complicated then that.
You want Harris to have won? Then you should have been putting every iota of effort into getting her to change her policies on Israel and Gaza. There was no other path for her to take the white house.
Know who else was incredibly clear about their intentions?
Donald Trump.
Was I happy Kamala/Biden didn’t meet the moment? Fuck no. Did I still vote for them cuz I have brain cells and I knew there was only one other viable alternative that was undeniably worse? Fuck yes.
It isn’t just about candidates reaching voters. It’s also about voters being responsible enough to do the right thing, even under shitty circumstances.
I just don’t know how much we have to beat you over the head with this to get you to understand.
If the above quote represents your understanding or thesis on how voting or elections work, you will continue to lose elections to Republicans on our behalf. You don’t get a choice on how voters behave, no matter how much tut-tutting or hand wringing you do.
You have to meet voters where they are at. You do not have another choice. What you are offering is a false equivalence, and is the very reason why Democrats lost to fascists. You don’t get a choice.
Its very telling as soon as you tell these people that politicians should stand up for what’s right, they foam at the mouth and insult you for wanting better from the “lesser” evil.
Blue MAGA.
You should form another political party. It doesn’t sound like the Democratic Party reflects your values.
You can beat me over the head all you want with your spaghetti arms. It’s not going to prevent me from making the right decisions or expecting MOTHERFUCKING ADULTS to make the right decision, even if they aren’t coddled by politicians the way they want to be. It’s not like election campaigns are the only way to determine where a candidate or party stands. There’s an entire history of data PROVING where they stand. Part of a citizen’s responsibility is making themselves aware of that history.
This wasn’t calculus. It was a low IQ convicted felon and adjudicated rapist with 1 failed presidency and 2 impeachments vs. a non-criminal with a doctorate who just didn’t meet the moment in the campaign. It doesn’t get easier than that.
If GROWN ASS ADULTS can’t do what’s right even under those circumstances, then yes, I absolutely will, and rightfully so, place blame on the voters. That doesn’t mean I don’t understand how voting or elections work. It means I’m acknolwedging that voters have a responsibility that goes beyond politician’s campaigns and American voters (and idiot non-voters) FUCKED THAT RESPONSIBILITY UP SPECTACULARLY.
I am not here to discuss what Democrats need to do to win. That’s obvious. I’m here to point out that voters are absolutely at fault as well.
Well, by all means, let’s encourage young voters to abstain and allow the worst shit to happen, right?
All or nothing.
Global warming is going to destroy the planet because people aren’t using paper straws
Or, you know, you could just have fucking listened to what the voters were telling you.
Anyone to the left of indiscriminate genocide is a tankie. You heard it here folks. Ratchet effect go buuuuurrrr!
Left of Reagan is a Tankie.
Wanting to not commit genocide? Tankie.
Saying a candidate needs to support popular policies in a popularity election? Tankie.
Someone found a dollar on the ground before you? Tankie.
Oppose sending tanks into Lebanon?
You guessed it . . . Tankie
Those damned anti-war tankies!
Your type cost us the last election. Go be a republican.
Just to be clear - you’re upset that the left wouldn’t support your pro-genocide candidate, and so your solution is to tell the left to not vote for you in the future?
Explain that logic to me?
I think you might have replied to the wrong comment.
You’re telling people that won’t vote for neoliberal warmongers like Harris to “go be a Republican”. Do you think that’s a good electoral strategy?
I’m telling shit-libs who insist that voters have to accept pro-genocide candidates to “go be a Republican”.
ah, apologies, misread that
“Genocide Joe” was bullshit? Are you denying the genocide or what his first name is?
What’s easy to deny is that the alternative would be any better, and was, in fact, much worse. At least there were calls within Joe Biden’s party to put a stop to it and headway was being made.
MAGA doesn’t give a fuck about Palestine and feels nothing when brown people die.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.
Objectively better than you getting angry at anyone who refuses to vote for their butcher
Yeah his name is Benjamin
Literal nazi apologism
yup look at that user history. LOVES using the genocide cynically for their own selfish political goals, HATES anyone who talks about the genocide as it actually happened. Not good enough to murder children, with their blood fresh on your hands you have to pick them up by the dismembered shoulders and dance them around like marionette dolls begging to support their murderers to save their lives.
It’s hard to imagine Gobbles being capable of anything as disgusting
And these are the ‘good guys’ in America. Death to America.
You’re literally only helping the Republicans with garbage like this. Bye.
Oh no the bad people might do bad things
"guys, by not supporting Mussolini you’re just supporting Hitler!
Why can’t I defeat fascism?"
Notice how these posts suspiciously are more prevalent now during primary time and will ramp up during general election time again.
Y’all said I’d disappear after the last election and only show up again for the next one, but in fact:
Funny because we post this type of stuff all year every year.
Yep, I actually congratulated them after Trump got elected and they upvoted me.
You know, I was just thinking about how long it’s been since I had to post this:
“If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.”
While they wear the label like a skin suit, progress is the farthest thing from their mind.
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene.
You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actually worth voting for, someone who actually excites the electorate to go out and vote to improve their lives, not just the “technically better than Trump” candidate. That doesn’t win elections, no matter how much you rant and rave and shame people.
Deal with this reality, or accept endless Republican victories.
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!
“it’s the only viable opposition because VBNMW only goes one way!”
If you want left wing votes, you better have left wing candidates. Unless you really like how 2024 turned out, I’d recommend learning that.
My best friend died in Trump’s concentration camps so I hope you feel good about teaching me that lesson.
I didn’t teach you that lesson. But seems you still need to learn it.
If I can’t tell the difference then I’m not engaging. Good luck.
Buddy, if you can’t tell the difference between the Republican and Democrat parties you need to get yourself a new pair of eyes and ears and then enroll yourself in some classes to get a better education.
EDIT: Oof. Some low IQ downvotes from hamster brains that don’t seem to remember our situation being way less intense before January 2025 and who apparently haven’t done their homework to determine the differences between the parties. Keep being ignorant. That’s how we got Trump and fascism.
Zoom in far enough and everything is made of the same electron. But in the bigger picture you’re still looking at two different things.
I love it, the left are both a large voting block for the Democrats but negligible enough to not be considered serious for legislation. Like with all fascists, you can’t reason with a neo-lib.
Schrodingers leftist.
Democrats need to pursue the left flank of the countries like they pursue triple Trumper votes.
The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.
So you’re saying as a voter I’m supposed to just sit around and wait for a candidate/party to run a perfect campaign while I let my brain rot instead of rubbing some of my brain cells together to acknowledge that one option is better than the other, even if they messed up on the campaign trail?
That sounds pretty stupid and lazy.
Like, do you think election campaigns are the only way to judge a party or candidate? Like there isn’t an entire detailed history I can check out to determine what the facts are about that party/candidate?
Yeah, campaigns matter, but voters also have a responsibility and you’re trying to absolve them of that responsibility.
Oh my god, I am extremely over explaining this again and again.
No, I’m telling you that it doesn’t matter how much you scream, cry, shame, judge, rant and rave, it literally doesn’t matter one single iota if you’re right and those people are lazy and shit.
THEY WILL CONTINUE TO NOT VOTE UNLESS YOU GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO VOTE FOR.
DEAL WITH REALITY, OR LOSE.
That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did.
I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.
But she chose a losing policy and lost. The entire left was telling you she was going to lose. But the left isn’t netanyahu, so centrists didn’t listen.
What “losing policy” did she pick?
Genocide, obviously. Unlimited, unreserved pro-zionist support for Israel. Neoliberalism. Take your pick, really.
Oh, not quite.
We chose unlimited, unreserved pro-zionist support for Israel over limited, reserved pro-zionist support for Israel.
I’m aware that most of us wanted neither of those.
Thats a losing policy? Thats been the general policy for 5 decades.
And people have been fighting for the ownership of their stupid holy land since man has existed. Who gives a fuck about either side in Israel/Palestine. Let them wipe each other out while the rest of the world slowly moves on ffom acting like LOTR version zero is any sort of reality.
Genocide.
People didn’t vote because they felt like Harris was not worth voting for. She lost because she didn’t actually offer anyone what they wanted, she was just a harm reduction candidate at best. That isn’t sufficiently motivating to get people out to vote, no matter how much we rant and yell and shame people.
Please, I am begging you, accept this reality. I want Trump and the Republicans gone probably even more than you do. I am trying to help you understand that we lost for a very good reason and we need to learn from it.
I think she would have did a good job personally.
No war in Iran and no brownshirts shooting Americans in the streets.
What you think, and whether she would have done a good job, is completely irrelevant. Do you not understand my point? You win elections by having a candidate that people want to vote for, usually by advancing policies which are popular.
The genocide in Gaza is now like a 90/10 issue. It is known that it was a factor in why Kamala lost the election. If she had opposed the genocide, it is very possible that she would have won.
I am not shitting on Democrats just for fun. I am trying to explain that Trump won because the Democrats advanced a shit, genocidal candidate.
If you let them do the same thing again in 2028, we very well may see a Republican President even worse than Trump.
Please, demand more than the bare minimum.
So you voted trump to stop all the forever wars, release the Epstein files, etc?
Democracy isn’t just about voting once in a while, and boy democracy is less about “getting what you want” than removing wannabe dictators.
But then again your whole system is broken, so good luck, because you need to fix it, and that happens by hard work from the bottom up.
Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.
She ran on a more lethal military and that Iran was our greatest enemy…
Oh yes, why reduce harm when we can not vote and get the option that will just endlessly stab with the wheel of staby knives.
People not voting are possibly more stupid than MAGA. At least MAGA morons have SOME sort of care, even if its motivated entirely by hate.
I’ve voted in every election I was ever eligible to vote in. I am simply explaining why the Democrats lost. You can hate the people who didn’t vote if you want, I understand that frustration, but there is a very good reason they didn’t vote - because they didn’t perceive the Democratic candidate to be someone worth voting for.
Advance a candidate with popular policies who isn’t a genocidal piece of shit and watch in amazement as political engagement ramps up.
maga has candidates that they’re excited to vote for.
democrats do not.
Second worst is not good enough to win. Appealing to the voters is not beneath you.
If you have to be excited to do the right thing I have a bit of bad news about adulthood in general.
Yes. The Democrats fucking suck.
You know who fucking sucks 1000x more.
The fucking Nazis running the GOP.
Its like the Turkey election. Everyone was all "yay they got rid of the dictstor asshole. Except by all accounts, the new guy is not a whole lot better or different. But he is BETTER. And everyone has been praising the shit out of that.
harm reduction is a specific thing. voting is not harm reduction.
Funny how not setting your hand on a burning stove won’t result in third degree burns isn’t a good enough reason to not set your hand on a burning stove. You ever heard the phrase “don’t let better be the enemy of perfect”?
No shit Harris sucked, but she sucked a whole lot less than Trump and moving incrementally left from Harris would have been a HELL OF A LOT easier than moving left from Trump. I do absolutely blame the idiots who sat around and said “well, Harris doesn’t inspire me, so I’ll sit here and let the fascist collapse happen. That’ll show everyone how morally superior I am!”
The people who didn’t vote, I think, are worse than Trumo supporters because at least Trump supporters made moves to do what they thought was best while you sat around and twiddled your thumbs and let the world burn around you instead of doing the bare fucking minimum available to you to stop it, or at least slow it down to make it easier to change it in the near future
Yeah, being mad at trump supporters voting for trump is like being mad at your dog for eating its own shit. It’s a dumb animal that eats shit and garbage, what were you expecting? I’m more mad that they have, not just equal, but over representation in this political system. We need a system where ideally, the stupid dogs have no representation, or at a minimum, equal representation to actual thinking human beings.
No excuses for the 3rd party/non-voters in 2024. Life is full of shitty compromises made worse by inaction. I’m amazed they’ve made it this far in life without noticing that, but it’s time to adult the fuck up.
Primaries for Congress are going on right now, and each one of those whiny lazy chucklefucks that got us into the mess ought to be out there stumping for their ideal candidate every waking hour of every day until November.
Take a look in the mirror. That’s what a fascist enabler looks like.
I have explained this, again, and again, and again: I am just explaining why and how the democrats lost. I have voted in every election I have ever been eligible to vote in, ALWAYS for the candidate which minimizes harm.
Please stop being so reactionary and try to understand what I am writing. Jumping to conclusions and getting angry at me for explaining why OTHER PEOPLE didn’t vote doesn’t make me a fascist enabler.
almost won? She lost every single swing state. It was a slaughter and not even close.
In the history of the USA Harris got the third most votes ever.
It goes:
Biden with 81,283,501 Trump (2024) with 77,302,580 Harris with 75,017,613 Trump (2020) with 74,223,975
Listen sweater maybe you don’t understand how elections work
In 2024 besides Trump who was the next closest to winning the election?
This is the most sane comment I’ve seen from you since I joined Lemmy.
He almost gets it, like Kamala almost won.
yeah what gives? did we slip into a mandala universe again? (we spell it mandala here)
No it’s projection which is why it’s hilarious. Cumfart spent his 2024 kneecapping any opposition to Biden and the status quo, leaving us with the only possible option which could lose to fascism.
Don’t let them fool you, Cumfart is a fascist. They would just prefer it be their preferred fascists at the helm.
I voted for Harris not the fascists.
Don’t you love the neo-liberal bullshit of critical analysis of a candidate by a leftist means you didn’t vote for them? Geeze, with them pushing away leftists, I wonder how the party will do now.
I don’t think you know what neoliberal means and when did I tell dingdong they didn’t vote?
I would appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth so you can give yourself a reason to be mad.
I wasn’t saying you said DingDong didn’t vote. What I’m saying is that neo-liberals believe if you are critical of the Dems and them they think you didn’t vote at all.
Your vote is irrelevant when you did all the work to ensure fascists get get elected.
Harris was fascist lite. Both candidates were fascists. Dont lie, you did vote for fascists, and you got what you voted for.
That’s just not true and comments like this are doing the right-wing propaganda machine’s job for it by normalizing what’s currently happening.
Don’t be like that.
It is true. She would not make the decision to part ways with Israel and advocate against an ongoing genocide.
You just wanted a more polite fascist. You wanted genocide, just a more well spoken version that meets your class sensibilities.
Wow, “stop blaming voters”.
America, do you even understand how a democracy is supposed to work? Hint: it’s not fire & forget every N years.
Good luck you all, you need it.
They quit teaching civics in school in the US 30 years ago. So, no, the kids you’re arguing with do not understand how a democracy is supposed to work. Yet another Republican success story.
they did? shit someone tell our local districts.
That explains a fair bit… Thanks! And good luck.
Ok. Keep blaming voters. Scream at them until the end of time. It won’t change the electorate you have in front of you. You can appeal to the voters or lose. I know, it’s beneath you to treat the hostages like they’re people instead of vending machines that dispense votes when you kick them hard enough.
🙄
It certainly seems like you have a winning message by being condescending
Well sorry if it comes off like that but I sometimes feel I’m trying to instruct in a kindergarten. Do americans not study history of democracy, or of war? It’s like they do all the rookie mistakes.
Good luck to them all.
I promise you everyone on the left understands US civics. Liberals can’t help but condescend and derail into metaphor because the arguments for their policy fucking suck.
Liberals have a real problem reckoning with the fact that Kamala Harris lost because she was an unelectable piece of genocidal trash who deserves to be put on trial for crimes against humanity alongside Biden for their unlimited support to the genocidal regime of Israel, who advanced precisely zero popular policies, and ran entirely on a platform of “We’re like the Republican Party, but slightly less worse”.
Liberals feel like their candidate was good, but only lost because voters are lazy, apathetic, stupid, etc. If the candidate was good, voters would overcome these obstacles and vote. I’m just explaining fundamental reality to people who do not want to come to terms with the fact that their political project, neoliberalism, is dead and gone.
If you’re an American then it is up to you to find a good candidate. It’s not going to work if you wait for someone to spoon feed you the “right”(enough) candidate.
I regularly encourage people to get engaged in the democratic process, especially primaries, as well as participating in workplace organizing and activist efforts. Please enjoy one of my many homemade copypastas:
Organize, protest and elect. Emphasis on organize and protest.
Good luck from Europe!
This is just… Its such a hilariously insane sentiment to express. I’m like, genuinely glad that shitlibs can’t help themselves and are willing to just live with their whole ass hanging out. Just, honestly, thank you. Thank you for always saying the quiet parts out loud. You make it so much easier to identify and understand why and how liberalism ends up at fascism.
And what you are doing is important, even if its naively so. We need this kind of thinking documented, if only to study in an effort to make sure no one ever repeats it.
Dude can only treat people as “LiBeRaLs” when they do not “agree”.
I’m not american. Not your LIbErAl either lol.
But please continue insulting people left right center, that’s the winning strategy champ!
Oh yeah, blocked.
Gald we have great morals and not voted for lesser genocide and allowed unbridled genocide to occur.
If you want better candidates you need to find them long before election day. On election day it is too late to find your perfect candidate. And yeah, its no secret democrats are right wing… not really sure what you expected.
Leftists, including me, yelled as loudly and repeatedly as possible that Biden/Harris would lose the election, long before the election was held. We were ignored, and now, we’re being blamed for the loss that is 100% the fault of the centrist/right wing of the Democratic party.
What do you think I’m doing now, literally YEARS out from the election? I am trying to help people understand WHY the Democrats lost, so that we can avoid a candidate who will lose in the same way.
I’m trying to push the Democrats back towards the left wing because that is the best hope we have of curbing the rise of fascism.
Look, I fucking led the fight trying to explain this to shitlibs and blue MAGA in '22, continuing into '23, and relentlessly in '24. And as I know I’m speaking to someone on the right side of that fight, I just want to point out to you to notice how they refuse to understand and that not understanding or being willing to understand how elections work, how electoralism works, how voting works, how voters work: their belligerence; their refusal to understand or live in a grounded reality; its a core function of their argument.
At this point, there really is not excuse for them not understanding and acknowledging the damage they caused to democracy in 2023/24. And the refusal to understand and acknowledge effectively is the argument they are making. They don’t care that they’re wrong, they only care that they their grievances and sensibilities stay centered as the highest priority of the democratic party. My point here, is that we need to shift our understanding of what liberals/ shitlibs/ blue MAGA is trying to accomplish when they insist that its voters that need to adapt to bad policy and undetectable candidates. As progressives/ socialists, we think were running in a political contest. This cohort understand something we don’t: they understand that they are in competition for cultural control of the entire suite of demographics living in the tent of the Democratic party.
And I think its appropriate to use the pejorative Blue MAGA here, for the same reasons we use MAGA to describe the same phenomenon on the right. Characters like SMCF aren’t making a political argument or waging a battle to get their suite or policies centered in the Democratic party: they’re waging a battle to maintain their white/ NPR liberal cultural identity as the central focus of the Democratic party. And this why the pejorative is the correct word to use here: MAGA also started as a project to maintain the centralism of white identity politics. Blue MAGA is culture wars, but internal to the Democratic party. Their arguments aren’t political, they’re cultural. Their fight is to keep their sensibilities and identity the central focus and project of the Democratic party. And these are the people who are also least impacted by the US’s turn to fascism. They are the protected class of fascism, and they are fighting to keep it that way.
So when you hear ABWD/ Shitlib/ Blue MAGA hog sounds coming from a chat thread, I think its useful to understand why they are doing what they are doing. And yes, Blue MAGA is the right word to use here, because, like MAGA, their fight isn’t truly political, its cultural. And I think if we shift our understanding into these terms, it helps explain behaviors that otherwise wouldn’t make sense, like for example, insisting on running the worst possible candidates in the “most important elections of our lifetime”.
the way to do that is not by yelling online, but by getting out there and actually doing politics. getting involved. if you think only democrats are electable, get involved with democrats and get folk at the local level excited for your causes (i’ll give you a hint mine are healthcare and homelessness). maybe even become a candidate for some office yourself. we always need folk on school boards and city councils who can advance sensible agendas and stop far right folk from taking over.
Harris chose a losing policy. She lost.
Not that any centrist has read this far, but I voted for her. I fully expect abuse from people who made the assumption that I didn’t as soon as I said she chose a losing policy.
There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging a candidate chose a losing strategy but still voting for them because you also acknowledge the opposition is worse. I did the same thing.
Unfortunately, a lot of stupid people were convinced to not vote or vote for a 3rd party with no possibility of winning.
Saying anything about harris that centrists don’t want to hear is regarded as a prima facie confession of being Someone Who Didn’t Vote For Genocide Like We Ordered!
Yeah, the electorate has stupid people in it. It also has people for whom genocide is a dealbreaker. A skilled politician could win them over. Centrists will just shout at them.
Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight.
Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.
You got the genocide you consider perfection.
Your reading comprehension is lacking if that’s your take from that comment
If you think electing a genocidal democrat is progress, as far as I’m concerned, you are as much an enemy of mine as a MAGA supporter is.
I am not asking for perfection. The bar is literally underground. We are talking about fucking genocide, here, not microaggressions.
This shit is literally how Trump got into power. You need to blame the Democrats for this. It was an entirely unforced defeat, all because Biden/Harris needed to dickride Israel directly into hell.
Fuck. That.
They keep proving the joke of “we tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”.
The thing is, in their hearts, they know what the problem is. They need to give ground to the left. They’re just throwing a tantrum and refusing to accept it because in the past they’ve been able to win with a coalition of centrists, moderates and liberals. Those days are now gone, and this coalition, which has been looking down and sneering at the left for decades, really doesn’t want to have to capitulate to our demands. But if they don’t, they’ll just cause republican fascists to come to power. For many right wing democrats, fascism is preferable to socialism.
There is a very good reason the DNC hasn’t released the election post-mortem report, because it probably confirms something close to what I just described - though, probably watered down slightly. The leaks we do have confirm that the Democrats lost votes because of their pro-Genocidal stance.
And they won’t ever put their hands up and admit their approach is what caused defeat because they would require some self awareness, self analysis and then admitting that the ‘left’ not holding their noses and voting for their piss soaked candidate wasn’t the cause of the defeat.
I’m not in the US but only recently learnt that since ww2, no democrat has been elected with a majority of white voters. Carter came closest with 48%. Running a candidate who supported cop cities with her entire chest isn’t going to endear your core voter base.