• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Let’s not forget that these are pledges, not yet donations.

      I won’t hold my breath that Kraft actually follows through with that.

      Also, Kraft said that he was spendbthat $2 mn in the region, which doesn’t necessarily mean Palestine. He might send the IOF that money for all we know at the end of the day when all is said and done

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      Hold up, the post from Kraft only says:

      Ed called me and asked me to commit $2 million to match his donation to aid in the region to fight this humanitarian crisis.

      Doesn’t say he’ll do it, and doesn’t say it’ll go towards aid for Palestinians.

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      Kraft donated to “support the region”. Doesn’t say anything specifically about Palestine. Dude probably wrote a $2 million check to Netenyahu.

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        Settlements in Palestine need investments, the way he describes his donations reeks of dishonesty. “supported efforts to create opportunity for Palestinians” Opportunities aren’t food or shelter or aid.

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      Interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess I was wrong.

      So… this only makes me more confused, though. He shuts down Macklemore because he doesn’t want Macklemore saying “Free Palestine” in his stadium, and then turns around and supports Palestinian causes?

      Christ, I must be missing something here.

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        Boils down to Robert Kraft did not expect the PR shit show that started because he kicked Macklemore out. This blew up super fucking fast and well outside of the control of what they expected. Ed Sheeran is scrambling too.

        This looks really bad. Even Jesse Walters from Fox News is like, “he kicked him out for saying free Palestine?” He then went on to defend Robert Kraft, claiming he can kick him out for whatever reason, but even he seemed incredulous about the reason that Macklemore was kicked out.

        Robert Kraft does not want this to continue to blow up because if every fucking artist besides a few of them suddenly start refusing to go to his stadium, that’s gonna look bad. This gives him an out, saying, well, I donated two million dollars after the fact So it doesn’t look like he’s directly supporting genocide.

        It’s obvious to those of us who pay attention, but to anybody who’s not familiar with Robert Kraft, this potentially creates an out. It all about the pr message.

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            Yeah, it basically boils down to PR and Robert Kraft trying to control the message. I’m not sure why he’s trying to control the message. He’s not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he’s donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

            I speculated about the artist boycott, but I mean, it could also boil down to people just boycotting him for not allowing free speech, which is a lightning rod issue in the United States.

            Or maybe it just spiraled so fast out of control that it just spooked him. Ultimately, $2 million dollars for him is a chump change. Hard to know at this point, unfortunately.

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              I’m not sure why he’s trying to control the message. He’s not giving a shit about it before, given how open he is about supporting Israel and how much money he’s donated to Israel before But this clearly rattled him.

              But now bad things are happening to him so they matter.

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        His PR team specifically chose the words “support the region” and ended the sentence with “I have supported efforts that create opportunity for Palestinians and have brought young Palestinians and Israelis together to build businesses, create jobs”

        For example, financing bulldozing a Palestinian village, building an illegal settlement of terrorists, then hiring some Palestinians for pennies to clean the gardens, can technically match the statement

        The Israeli Gaza “humanitarian” foundation let thousands of people die of starvation, also. Any donation to the ghf technically counted as Palestine aid, but it’s like if during WW2 there was a fundraising for food in Auschwitz

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        One of the last lines of the article

        Kraft later confirmed he didn’t want Macklemore performing at Gillette, which Kraft owns … accusing the rapper of crossing the line with antisemitic rhetoric and imagery.

        I find it hard to believe that Maklemore uses antisemitic rhetoric and imagery (I’m willing to change this opinion with evidence). I would believe he uses Anti-Israeli rhetoric and imagery.

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          Kraft it’s deeply pro Isreal and supports organizations directly that have stated they define antisemitism as any criticism of Isreal. you don’t like the yearly budget Isreal passes on Library maintenance? antisemitism. You think Isreal needs to secure better water use rights for a particular Israeli city? antisemitism. better not.

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          Good! This leaves MORE Room for Noted Jew Lover Kanye West to play “Heil Hitler” at Kraft’s stadiums AGAIN!

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          I just found this today. Still not sure what to make of the costume, but Macklemore claims he didn’t intend for it to look like a Jewish caricature

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            That’s exactly what he looks like. I could see this being viewed as antisemitic. I do still wonder what the retoric was

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              It’s almost definitely antisemitic, but I suspect rather than being actual hatred, it was probably just an antisemitic joke in poor taste, and more importantly, he apologized for it in… 2014.

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                2014! I thought that was from the current tour. People born that year will be teenagers next year. Robert Kraft associates with people who would fuck those teenagers.

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                    That was not my experience, thirteen for me. Because of the teen in it. Where does your idea come from?

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                    I thought it was 13 because it goes eleven, twelve, thirteen

                    But then different languages are different when it comes to the numbers, in Estonian we have “teismeline” as the word for teenager and you could argue it starts at 11 because the numbers are üksteist, kaksteist and so on (11, 12)

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                From what I read, he was supposedly trying to dress up in a costume inspired by Humpty Hump (of Humpty Dance fame) and wasn’t aware enough at the time to realize how fucked up it came across.

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                  the article says

                  He explained that he randomly chose the elements of the outfit so that he could disguise himself and move freely around during the secret show.

                  so to make nobody recognize him. the facial features do seem like things you’d grab off the closet in a quick decision to look the most drastically different easily. the rest of the outfit, though? … ooof. i’m willing to trust him if there’s nothing else

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                    Yes, all I’m saying is the inspiration was supposedly Humpty Hump, a rapper who famously disguises himself with a big fake nose. It seems totally plausible that he was going for that look without realizing it came across wrong.

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              I definitely wore a Halloween costume In high school I regret. I was a Sultan; thank God I didn’t try to bronze my skin…

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                I wrapped a sheet around myself and called myself the Ayatollah and did a bad Arabic accent. In Australia in the 90s. Still bugs me that I was not only being racist, but completely ignorant of the Iranian people.

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        It’s just PR bro. Trying to save face after the fact.

        That 1 million (from each) will be tax deductible and not cost either of them anything (as long as they both earn at least a million this year, which they will).

        It’s also only a limited number of charities that are official enough to take such a sum, meaning the money will get shunted through approved US channels (so that it stays out of the hands of “Hamas” or whatever the US and Israel see as Hamas today).

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        Youre missing the fact that 1 million isnt even .01% of his wealth he gave away pennies

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        $2 million for a gesture probably doesn’t matter much to him.

        Especially when his actions point to him being a Zionist, the question becomes how much money has Kraft spent furthering Zionist ideals in comparison? Does it make $2 million USD look like a joke?

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        yes its almost as if human beings exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

        Fuck Hollywood and gaming industry for cultivating false dichotomies instead of utilizing actual good writers.

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          Dude is also in the Epstein files, where on you’re gradient is that?

          Also just because I’m feeling froggy

          yes its almost as if Hollywood and gaming industry exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

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            A lot of people are in the Epstein files. John Stewart did a whole segment on this.

            The problem is your pea sized reactionary brain is looking for a target to unload its anger on and, for real … maybe try checking your self righteous indignation and look in a mirror?

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              he was friends with Epstine to the point he hired a lawyer to get out of sex crime charges on Epstine’s advice to him.

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                i mean thats what lawyers do, they help you escape charges.

                you would literally do the same if you got charged.

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                  Kinda ignoring the whole sex crimes part of that comment but whatever. Again, got out of sex crimes charges, friends with Epstein. That doesn’t mean… Anything to you?

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              He had the same lawyer as Epstein after Epstein suggested him to Kraft, my guy. Maybe do a modicum of research before diving into a dismissive tirade

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                yes, guilt by association is not evidence of a crime.

                fuck your mob mentality and fuck you because you would want the same defense I am giving Mr Kraft.

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                  guilt by being very close friends with a known sex criminal who gives you advice on lawyers to help with the sex crime charges you are facing is a little bit beyond simple association.

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                    guilt by associate is not actual guilt you lackwit.

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                    i was fine before you opened your mouth. anger can be a gift if wielded appropriately. you deserve it.

                    anger is not my default emotion, so i dont lead with it on the internet with strangers.

                    i am allowed to utilized it like sadness or happiness or any other emotion. thanks for noticing

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                sigh

                I’m feeling froggy

                yes its almost as if Hollywood and gaming industry exist on a gradient between black and white and should not be judged solely based on one single action.

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                  Criticizing you for being super specific in one sentence, then super obtuse in a second sentence is not me being angry.

                  And to me froggy is fun, like frisky.

                  Words on the internet can sometimes have an unintended tone, thanks for the critic.

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          No, fuck Robert Kraft and his Gillette Stadium bot farm astroturfing Islamophobia under the guise of “fighting antisemitism”

          The reason is he knows that aid probably won’t make a lick of difference. It’s like sending bread to the German Jews during the holocaust - that doesn’t do shit to stop the people killing them.

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            your simple mind can only condense human actions into false dichotomies.

            I pity you. truly

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                ah yes the simpletons coalesce. shit sticks to itself. the universe unfolds…

                nice double negative, lackwit.

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                  It’s actually called a litotes, it’s grammatically correct and intended to understate the imparted meaning.

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                    litotes,

                    sure im sure it hits just as hard as sarcasm over text

                    /s

                    shrugs

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      That doesn’t surprise me. It’s cheap repair for his image. But, it’s also disingenuous, which we all know.

      Even if Kraft backed down and allowed the show, it wouldn’t work. He’s exposed himself, there’s no repairing that. Also, the artists wouldn’t return.

      Kraft is known now. And, we know what he is.

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      “brought young Palestinians and Israelis together to build businesses, create jobs, and forge relationships” sounds like some Supply-side Jesus bullshit way of saying “I made a fuckton of money in Israel and even deigned to hire some Palestinians to do it”

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      He doubled it and apparently said he was matching Ed Sheeran’s donation, not Mackelmore’s.