Was it an off switch or do you just forget the time it took you to fall asleep?
So it’s ok to post this, but every sublemmy will ban me (or at least remove my comment) if I type the r-word? What a bunch of hypocrites.
I’ve done something similar. Only once though. Sleep was like a straight up on/off switch with an instant jump in continuity awareness.
God how amazing it would be to have a sleep switch.
How would you turn it back on? It seems like you’re just talking abstractly about suicide.
Since I’d be in a world where a sleep switch exists I’d expect a built in alarm system would exist with it as well.
Same thing happened to me when I was 8
Had the same thing happen to me as a kid, however not the not tired part. Basically just went to bed like normal closed my eyes and bam morning. Never was able to reproduce it either.
fake: op left his house
gay: sleeps in same bed with his brother
The twin bed was a separate bed next to his?
I once had the exact opposite.
I voted Fidesz in 2010 with the hopes they will raise the age of consent. They lowered it to 12 if the older party is under 18.
I got so angry I was shaking, and veins on my forehead were visible, just like that meme. When I tried to sleep, it didn’t work. I still tried to at least try, so I lay in the bed, seeing the sun rising. Eventually I had to go to college, after that finished, I slept for like 20 hours, and accepted my fell for it again award (they also didn’t make it easier for college students to get apprenticeship, so ultimately I ended up without a college degree, as I couldn’t get anything due to a multitude of factors).
Never had that while sleeping, but I’ve found myself sort of becoming aware in random places when I was a kid.
I had the opposite happen to me once back in my early 20s
One time I was dead tired and could barely keep myself awake after working in an university assignment due the next day. I finished past midnight and went to bed at 1am, I recall watching the clock before going to sleep since I had to set up an alarm for 8am or something.
Thing is, I fell asleep immediately, then I woke up fully refresh before my alarm went off, I woke up feeling amazing, fully awake and ready to go. Then I checked the time… 1:50am. Since I couldn’t fall asleep again I watched some movies until my alarm went off and then went to class like nothing happened.
Yes, I was tired very early the next day, but I still think of that night from time to time
Good ol’ Circadian Arrhythmia
Sleep 10 minutes? Rested up and refreshed to start the day.
Sleep 10 hours? Dead tired and need an IV of caffeine to function.
Worn out after a long day? Lay down & BOOM! you have the energy of a 5 year old full of Halloween candy and Red Bull.
I used to routinely stay up 3 days in a row, at least once a year during my uni days to get a final assignment in on time[1]. I remember vividly after it was complete and I’d printed/binded/handed it in, I was on the train back home and saw weird shadows flickering across the carriage. Those flickering shadows followed me on my walk to the house, starting to creep in like oscillating blades at the edge of my vision, and when I finally got into bed and laid my head against the pillow that’s when the daggers closed in, and everything went black.
Woke up 15 hours later feeling great.
First day is the worst, second gets better once you switch from caffeine to fruit, and third day you’re making stupid decisions like walking into traffic instead of waiting for the light ↩︎
I remember some times when I’d be up for a long time, eventually it felt like the part of my brain that controlled awareness of another person’s presence would glitch out. Like if I was alone in my room playing video games, I’d get a sense that it was time to pass the controller when I died, or to comment on something for the other person that wasn’t really there.
But I was alone in my room, which made it pretty easy to recognize what was going on as a form of hallucination (I’d also see dark spots moving around in my peripheral, which I suspect some less self-aware people might think are bugs moving around at the edge of their vision). If I was out walking, where it was harder to logically be sure that you’re alone when your senses lie to you, I could see it developing into a strong paranoia. Would suck for that to be a normal feeling rather than something that happens after staying up way too long.
My little sister once told us that she sleeps.with her eyes open. My family was like uh no you dont we’ve seen you sleeping before. 100% convinced she said “yes I do, when I wake up my eyes are open”
i dated someone who legitimately slept with her eyes partly open. idk, she was almost as weird as me.
She was nearly 20
wtf lmao
Totally off topic… Did you take that user name so the loser who runs Reddit couldn’t have it? If so, bravo my good lemming.
plot twist — it’s actually spez
Reddit is so shit now even spez doesn’t use it anymore
Well they got rid of r/jailbait
Sounds like the start of a philosophical argument!
Had that when I had a surgery under general anesthesia. They injected something, for about 20 seconds nothing happened, and next moment I was in the ward and everything was already done. Just instant time skip.
One of the first drugs they give you before surgery interferes with the formation of long term memories. There’s a good chance you were awake and aware for quite awhile after the first injection… you just couldn’t make long term memories about it.
How long term are we talking about? Because I remember being immediately surprised by it once I got awake, way before the effects fully subsided. It’s not that I just don’t remember it now, specifically.
Yeah, you won’t remember anything from the time it kicks in to the time it wears off, give or take a couple of minutes.
The first time I went in for a surgery, my memory ends shortly after they pushed the first drug into my IV but my mom was there and she said we talked for another 15 minutes before they took me to the OR. I remember none of it but she says I was completely lucid as far as she could tell.
I see! Curious.
Plot twist: you were awake and screaming all through the surgery but you don’t remember it.
Even worse, there have been people who woke up during surgery but the paralytics were still working just fine, so they were awake, aware, and fully experiencing the pain of surgery but couldn’t move or tell anyone.
Some Bella in twilight shit.
There’s a theory about general anasthesia similar to that. Probably false but fun to think about.
Yeah the theory that general anaesthesia doesn’t put you to sleep and numb the pain, it only paralyzes you and prevents you from forming any memories. So you remain awake and feel all the pain of surgery, you just can’t scream and you won’t remember it.
The only reason I doubt that theory is because the pain would cause the heart to race which would be noticeable on the monitors and other autonomic effects like sweating and vomiting.
The only reason I doubt that theory is because the pain would cause the heart to race which would be noticeable on the monitors and other autonomic effects like sweating and vomiting.
i’ve had three procedures where my anesthesia was insufficient. two, fortunately, were dental and i could grit my mental teeth for five minutes. one was a gastro surgery and i think they just forgot to give me the ForgetMeNow because i was wide awake and talking to them the entire damn time while they rummaged around in me.
When I had to get surgery, they gave me opiates first, then the other stuff. I remember them giving me the opiates, everything became… soft and fuzzy. Like, not visually, just, the opposite of sharp. Actually, quite a nice feeling. And then they announced that they’d proceed with the other stuff, and I time-skipped to when it all was over.
I got half a valium when I had my last surgery. I was super jittery. I remember the nurse giving me this tiny half-pill and thinking “That ain’t gonna do shit” 30 minutes later, as they’re wheeling me into the theatre, I’m smiling up at everyone and thinking " Hey, you know what’s great? Everything. Everything is so damn wonderful."
Then I woke up normal again and vomited on a nurse.
Wee there’s a nightmare I didn’t need to have…
Is the inability to form long term memories a side effect of something, or is that the main point of one of the drugs?
Causing memory loss is an important part of anesthesia. Usually it’s done with very strong sedatives that are in a similar family to benzodiazepines.
I’d assume they meant short term, cus losing long term memory formation for any amount of time would be trrrifying
I’m unsure of it being the intended effect or a side effect
Nope, I definitely mean long term. That’s the whole point… you don’t remember what happens for a little while, and it’s definitely on purpose. They also give you a soporific (makes you unconscious) and a paralytic (so you don’t move voluntarily or otherwise).
That sounds like short term though
Like roofies affect short term memory, you can’t form memories during a short period of time (e.g hours). Short term memories feed long term memory.
Short term memory is what I ate for breakfast, long term memory are my ABCs and knowing how to drive.
What we have here is a terminology problem.
When you experience anything it immediately forms a short term memory. To retain it for more than a brief period that short term memory has to be converted or moved to long term memory. These anaesthia drugs interfere with the process that moves short to long term memory.
Hm. I am not super firm on the definitions, but I remember having a hard time forming new memories when I took quite a bunch of cannabis. Scary shit. I basically “existed” in intervals of around a (subjective) minute or so, with nothing to do except to wait it out.
I had that happen with morphine once. Watched the needle for the drip go in, looked away for a second, looked back and it was already being removed because my procedure was done.
Anesthetics are super trippy like that. Wish falling asleep was like that…
So did Michael Jackson. It didn’t go so well for him.
Your description makes me think it was propofol
or versed. a 1 hour versed nap is like 9 hours of sleep
Usually they’d mix versed and propofol, and maybe fent
It kinda does, doesn’t it? It was a military dentist though, and I wasn’t going to be able to refuse whatever they were going to give me, so I believe they told me the truth.
I did threaten to bite them if I was awake enough to remember to do so though, so maybe the IV bag got an extra squeeze!
Propofol is usually used with something like fentanyl and midazolam
That doesn’t match my personal experience with propofol. The “going out” was pretty quick or the memory of it cut short, but the “coming back” was not quick at all.
When I woke up in the recovery room I had awareness first, but couldn’t control my body at all, not even able to open my eyes, but I could hear things in the room. Then I remember having coherent thoughts, but everything was in slow motion like my cognition was swimming in molasses. As I tried to see what I had motor control off, learned later I was verbalizing all of these thoughts and was semi audible as I tried to talk. It took probably 15 minutes before I had motor control and could speak clearly enough to be understood. It wasn’t a horrible or fearful experience, but wouldn’t call it pleasant either.
i’ve had way too many surgeries. my favorite waking up apparently i was trying to lead the recovery room in a singalong
the song’s chorus goes “I hope you die, I hope we both die” so i’m really curious how far into it i got
Interesting. I’ve had propofol twice and both times it was basically instantaneous. Get injected, close my eyes, next thing I know I’m opening them and saying wtf to the nurse.
That might have been a cocktail depending on what you had done, or they didn’t give you oxygen during recovery while your respiration was still depressed
I was given oxygen during the procedure as well as in recovery, but to your other point they could have given me something else too when I was under.
Probably some paralyzing agent, to stop you from twitching and moving while they worked. And probably a tiny miscalculation, or maybe even intentionally to avoid you doing something stupid before your rational brain was done rebooting.
Dude probably had to help his grandparents on the farm all day and was hyped and tired AF. Instant off switch.
Plus, 9:30 at night isn’t that early for most 10 year olds
fun tricks for anyone who wants to get to sleep quickly: consciously thinking of and trying to relax each of your muscles, from your face, to your shoulders, down your arms and into your fingertips and so on. Sometimes, you might be tensed up in some subtle way without realizing it, and part of falling asleep is getting fully relaxed. Do this in your head a few times if you need to, but this actually does help me fall asleep somewhat more quickly than just laying there and waiting. I remember reading somewhere this was how new sailors in the Navy learned to fall asleep at sea when they weren’t used to a moving bed, but that could’ve been bullshit, feel free to research that yourself.
Another one is, start with your hands flat on your thighs or your stomach (this assumes you sleep on your back, so this one actually isn’t very effective for me) and start tapping your hands down, alternating which hand, lightly on your body at a constant rhythm for a little bit, and then just gradually slow the rhythm down. This didn’t really work well for me because I’m a side sleeper, but YMMV. This was one I got from some TED(x?) talk I’m too lazy to go find.
These might not help if you have like, chronic insomnia or something, but if you just want tomorrow to come faster instead of dwelling on every mistake you’ve ever made for ~20 minutes, they might work for you.
I listen to the history of the roman empire by Mike Duncan. I literally just listen to something I enjoy and wake up next morning. I can count on my hand the times it hasn’t worked in the last year and those were all me trying to take a nap full of coffee.
see, me I need white noise to sleep. I absolutely can not fall asleep with voices, music, or other ambient noises in the room (or plugged into my ears) unless I’m completely dead tired, I’ve tried and it has usually resulted in several hours of laying awake.
I’m the same with music and most podcasts and even my chosen one at anything above moderate volume. Not sure why it works for me but as long as it fits as a bedtime story it seems to work. I also can’t fall asleep to something like Darknet diaries, it’s just too exciting and too much “ok what happens next” and cliffhangers instead of the story being delivered to me normally.
You can absolutely get yourself to respond to a trigger that you make up. Sure, relaxation is also useful on its own, but I am pretty sure that a good chunk of the effect of that is Pavlov-ing yourself to sleep. “I always do this right before I fall asleep, so when I do this, I will fall asleep”.
try to relax your anus, I mean your shoulders
I keep waking up after ~6 hours to wiz and struggle to go back to sleep for the last 1-2 hours, so I appreciate this
I tried counting sheep the other night and it kinda worked but my mind wanders a lot, so maybe these tricks will be better
Thanks!
Meanwhile, narcoleptics be like: “First time?”
