• sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al
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    Wasn’t it 30/350 licenses?

    And Israel likes to cite these 1200 deaths while neglecting the fact that they’ve killed over 40000 Palestinians in retaliation and taken the opportunity to plunder the land.

    The only thing shameful is that the UK continues to turn a blind eye.

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      Whats also shameful is that israel knowingly(according to BBC and many high ranking sources) let october 7 happen just so they could justify the genocide. How can the israeli people ever forgive that?

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        israel knowingly(according to BBC and many high ranking sources) let october 7 happen

        Any links for this? I’ve wondered about that from the beginning, but I haven’t seen anyone “official” come out and suggest it.

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          There was a comment on a post yesterday listing all the sources that were aware of the very specific hamas plans. I think it was BBC, NYT, The Times that reported on it very quickly.

          US, Egyptian and Israeli intelligence agencies knew about the plans and warned several Israeli military and government officials about the plan but they “disregarded it as too hard to pull of for hamas”.

          Now i dont know how much crack they smoke over there, but if i lived in a country that gets bombarded regularily by my neighbouring country, i think i would take a warning like that VERY serious. The fucking BBC knew about the potential for an attack before it happened.

          The Shin Bet even specifically discussed the possible danger to the Nova music festival right before the attack but didnt do anything at all. Like bro you have drones, just send some out there and check if you can see anything suspicious if you arent sure.

          You can sift through all the sources of the wikipedia article about the attack but the details dont even matter. They failed their country one way or another. We will never know if it was on purpose but to the dead people and their families it makes no difference. They are dead.

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    There was an interesting comment in the previous post about this. Whilst conspiracy nonsense is often quite common here on Lemmy I do feel in this case it’s pretty accurate of what’s going on.

    Lammy and his French counterpart were recently in Israel having high level meetings with the Israeli government. No doubt the topic of on going support from the UK & France came up and no doubt Lammy would have mentioned that it doesn’t look good politically in the UK to still have these licenses for arms to kill Palestinians. The US is being particularly quiet on this one given the election but a Trump team member recently said something to the effect of “The UK can get fucked if it stops selling arms to Israel… I tell you hwat”.

    So, to me, this really does feel like the UK trying to balance politics at home and abroad. Even the way Lammy sheepishly apologised for suspending a tiny fraction of arms sales to Israel. Just enough to placate the voters at home whilst trying not to damage inward investment from countries that fully support Israel’s campaign (i.e. the US and Israel itself).

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      I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on random things Trump idiots say though. The Trump administration basically is a sack of cats as far as discipline goes and people to have a tendency to just say random stuff which isn’t necessarily policy.

      There’s very little support for selling arms to Israel. You don’t need international relations with the potential Trump government to really come into it.

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        There’s little support for selling arms to Israel except by the Military Industrial Complex. They’ve spent years manufacturing consent from the public to keep selling arms to places that are all but guaranteed to start wars and/or commit war crimes.