• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Lol, do you think only pop star music exist? It’s actually the contrary that happend. Now, more than ever, anyone can make music. This is a really bad take.

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      I think the actual take is probably closer to “I wish we went back to a time when record companies would take a bet on anyone, regardless of the overall package, looks etc”

      Which tbh, is probably more of a fairy tale view of years olden days than anything else.

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        Exactly. I don’t think it’s hard to see what OP meant here.

        And I think it’s still the case that they prefer certain types of people to push in the music industry

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        2 months ago

        Some kid on tiktok probably got 20k+ upvotes in the last 20 minutes for pissing in a MacDonald’s fryer or something. Does that make it quality content?

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            Not only do you have insanely idiotic takes on music, but you also have some of cringiest flex out there. Lol, I hope you’re not more then 12 because that’s really embarrassing. im14andthisisdeep level shit.

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              Imagine being an adult and repeatedly trying to argue on the internet with a 12 year old.

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                So you are 12 I knew it! I’m actually 13. Wanna hang out and listen to music? I have the new "Wheelchair Sports Camp " album, we can check it out!! (seriously look it up - the track Yes I’m a mess and Denim, love this shit).

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        Yeah, by recycling a phrase so popular you can buy it on bumper stickers and tshirts and literally reposted from reddit r/showerthoughts six years ago.

        slow clap

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    Pop is just as manufactured and fake as it always was, with the exceptional trend setter or two doing their own thing, but what’s just below the surface is always just as good as it always was.

    As a fan of hardcore, electronica, folk, metal, and all of the genres that fall under them, I still get new bands. I still get new releases. I get cheap as fuck concerts and still get cool merch and awesome vinyls. I have zero to complain about. Hell, Primus, A Perfect Circle and Puscifer just made an album together, in 2024.

    Anyone who says music sucks now doesn’t really listen to that much music to start with. Music is just fine, man. Maybe look a little deeper than the pudding skin.

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      I hear you and agree with much of that. I am a fan of multiple genres as well. But, as far as it goes for jazz, jazz is dead. Anyone still attempting to play it is often a sad version of what was once great in the 50s/60s/70s. So while there’s plenty of music in other genres I like, always more to find from those time periods, as well as still enjoying the classics, it’s a little upsetting good jazz is dead, modern jazz is trash, and people who think they know jazz these days actually refer to some other genre, like rock. Somewhat sad.

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        Jazz, to me, a layman to the genre comes off as anything from Miles Davis and Duke Ellington to soundtracks composed for animes, to progressive epics that span twenty minutes and spin into a free form improv that’s somewhere between art and math.

        But aside from it being a flavor other things come in, like a jazzy rock band, Mars Volta or a jazzy metal band, like Opeth, or a jazzy singer, like Michael Buble, I don’t know jazz.

        I don’t think as a normal person that I’m exposed to pure “jazz”, whatever it dilutes into, but I’m fascinated by the chance that there might be something I’m missing that you might mention.

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          I suppose I don’t know a ton. My earliest entry was that of Buddy Rich, the drummer. As a drummer, I wanted to relate. Play fast and all. Haha. Though my playing has all but ceased (the stomach drum and desk drum will always live on!), my love for his often high tempo pieces lives on. He played songs I believe others played as well. His versions were just more upbeat!

          I’ll give you an example of a group I didn’t like all that much and that was the Glen Miller Orchestra. Even as a jazz fan I can hear the style of jazz people refer to when they talk about “music to put you to sleep.”

          But BR was just the beginning. It sounds like you know more than most believe it or not. Miles is great and I think I have more to discover there even.

          The latest artist I found, new to me, also from the 50s/60s I believe, is Bill Evans, a pianist. It was a YouTube comment I came across that mentioned Evans to now be their “piano daddy” and from what I’m hearing, I’d have to agree. 😁 But, again, I only know so much. (Talk as if I know it all though…)

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            Buddy Rich was good for his time and influential and all that, but the instrument has evolved so far since then.

            Check out Matt Gartska and a band called Animals as Leaders for a great modern jazz drummer.

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              The first song that came up for me on YT by him was Physical Education. There’s a lot of rock in there. He reminds me somewhat of a Dave Weckl or Carter Beauford even. Some of the instrument’s evolution I’m not interested in.

              Google classifies Animals as Leaders as a progressive metal band…

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                Gartska’s main band is a progressive metal band but the drummer is a jazz drummer through and through. Just look up some of his workshops and playthroughs if you just want to see simply good drumming. Most progressive metal is basically heavy jazz.

                I understand its different strokes for different folks and all, and appreciate you giving them a chance and responding.

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    “Ugly” people still make music but apparently you don’t listen to it. Shameful, tbh.

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    I think music staring going downhill when music was no longer an audio only thing. Once bands were expected to make videos, posters, and “act” on stage, suddenly a lot of musicians had problems getting into the business. They want to make music, not become pseudo-actors.

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        And even before MTV, there were these bands. So called “performers” even. It’s almost as if they performed some kind of act to entertain an audience.

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    Imagine how much less beautiful the world would be if this face weren’t allowed to succeed