• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    … and people get mad at me when I say this now bog standard, seemingly literally standardized anime art style is uninspired, boring, and fundamentally problematic.

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      Unrelated: did you know that the term “bog standard” comes from the term “box standard” which means, essentially, vanilla. No modifications or additions, just the basic version in the box. This used to be on the boxes for things people bought.

      Now it basically means the same thing but to a none native speaker bog standard would likely not make much sense, where box standard has the context in the term.

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    Just take those exact characters, give them different hair colors, match the personality to the hair color, boom you got a slice of life show that has a strong first season but then fades in quality and takes a weird turn in season 2+3 before a mediocre season 4 that fans try to justify but everyone really hates.

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      I really wish there was more evolution in anime. I used to like it a lot but I’ve grown to really dislike the art style because it’s so homogenous. I’m sure I’m missing out on great stories but I’m so damn bored of cookie cutter kawaii characters

      I know that’s not every anime so no need to reply with the exceptions to the rule. The two most popular styles are “generic anime” (this) and “chibi anime” (creepy/gross)

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        If you’re looking for more unique styles of anime, try out jojo’s bizarre adventure or dorohedoro. Both have quite a unique drawing style (for anime) and world building

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        Mahou shoujo Madoka magika is one fantastic story. And only 12 episodes or 2 movies (they are the same, just less OP/EDs).

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              Yeah but that’s what I’m saying, I dislike the generic aesthetic enough that it takes away most of the enjoyment. If I was neutral on that it’d be no big deal, but the story is only part of visual media

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          There is a third original movie and they are making a 4th original. They’re was also a size anime loosely based on the mobile game.

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            Third movie was really weird.

            Maybe it was the crazy subtitles I had when it came out, but I didn’t like it as much as the original.

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    I think, they miscounted. It’s actually 4 billion body types, not just 4.

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      In a lot of Asia, youth is seen as attractive

      Human eyeballs are generally all the same size, regardless of skull or body size.

      Youth = small

      Big eyes and small everything else therefore means cute

      Art often exaggerates or interprets

      Anime is art

      Anime is also not a new medium at all in Japanese, and now global culture, and has had a lot of time to evolve

      I’m not defending it, just explaining it, in case people don’t understand, because this is a long-standing and very common complaint/criticism

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      “Biologically possible”, I mean, quite a few animals have eyes taking up a ton of their headspace. Owls for starters.

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        … Unless you are planning on hybridizing an owl and a human, in pursuit of growing your own GMO Waifu…

        I think we can safely assume the scope of the context is ‘a human being’.

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    I think this would be incrementally less ridiculous if they hadn’t, presumably, scaled the images causing them all to be the same size/height on the page.

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      At one point, it was considered cute/attractive. I don’t know if it still is IRL (I don’t notice it when out and about, but I also don’t pay much attention to anyone’s legs or feet), but it definitely has stuck around in drawn media.

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      When I lived in Japan, about 30 years ago, it seemed to be a trend among young women to stand and walk pigeon-toed. It seems likely that manga took their cue from what was popular.

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          I feel like they are actually different body types as opposed to weight differences. That being said they are still narrow. But that’s not my point.

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      Yep, I’m afraid Gladaed is right; definitely different pictures. When she posed for the sketches, she did something different with her arms each time. She sometimes changed her expression too. Oh, and one day she wore a shorter shirt.

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    Tbf. obesity isn’t a body type. It’s an illness. It would be like calling a shriveled up cancer patient a body type.

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        Depends on how you define body type I guess. If it’s more about bone structure and how fat deposits or how much fat/muscle you have on your body.

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          When we’re talking about the form of a character that we can see, then I feel like the most relevant sense of “body type” is one that includes the whole picture of both the underlying bone structure/musculature, and how fat is distributed on the body.

          Linking things back to the original image, I personally find it absurd that even the body type described as “full figured” still has a thigh gap. Even people who are slender rarely have a thigh gap, so this depiction is ridiculous. I would interpret “full figured” as describing someone who is on the larger side of the healthy range (or is a bit overweight) but is not obese, so this image is silly even without getting into discussions about whether obesity constitutes a body type (though I would argue it does, for the purpose of a drawing guide that is showing the difference between how different body types are drawn. A better drawing guide might even have included references for characters who are overweight and/or obese — after all, obese people are people who exist in the world, and thus I would expect them to appear in fiction also.