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    Ayo I’m in the screenshot letsa fucking GOOOOOOOOOO-

    For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username) and has spent his time on !memes@lemmy.ml continuously spamming heavily transphobic, homophobic, and objectifying sexist “memes”. Just about every one of his alts is now banned but I’m sure more will pop up.

    Now, why the fuck he cares so much about pirates at this point, I haven’t a clue…

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        It’s easy to be a contrarian when opinions are not something you actually hold, but simply hats to be swapped out or discarded as necessary.

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          Kid’s probably on the debate team, they live to argue. Good luck figuring out their real opinions though, they might not even have any.

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        I love arguing with people, I’ll even argue points I don’t necessarily believe, but that’s not the same as trolling. The difference is doing it in good faith

        Trolls aren’t trying to convince anyone or engage in debate, they’re in it to russle jimmies, own the libs, or whatever. There’s not really an intellectual aspect to it, it’s arguing on emotion

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        Yeah we banned them on reddthat 2 days ago. I’m glad to see I’m not an outlier. Initially we should a 7 day ban should suffice. But then that user decided to message the admin directly and insult them.

        Probably the fastest way to get your account banned.

        Edit: The message in question. 👀 (Attempted spoiler open if you dare)

        ! Screenshot_20230816-204901!<

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          you have all the qualities of a womanly woman

          real “breasted boobily” energy

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          I believe the spoiler tag is the following on Lemmy

          ::: spoiler spoiler label
          sh*t to hide
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          spoiler label

          sh*t to hide

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        Doing the lord’s work. What a shitfest of a modlog, real winner this guy is

        Edit: dear God he keeps MAKING MORE. This dude seriously needs to get a life or something

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      The troll doesn’t care, at all. It got banned clearly or it would be trolling here directly, it’s retaliation. Child psychology will tell you everything you’d need to know about that “user”.

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        Maybe we shouldn’t feed that troll ?

        I think in that case a shadowban would be the best way to do it. Or an IP ban if that’s possible.

        In any case this is giving him even more reason to keep on harassing people for attention.

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        Oh. Oh that makes so much more sense. His sad little idea of vengeance is to now attack anything piracy related and get dbzero ostracized from LW just because pirates have more morals than he does lol

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        Out of curiosity, just someone not supporting trans people or lgbtq are getting banned or they are taking asshole behaviour and spewing hate speech?

        Edit: good fucking world. I am not against lgbtq. I am supporting it. I am a bi curious guy. I am all in for their civil rights. I was asking a question about why that guy was banned. For asshole behaviour or just having a different opinion. I don’t believe just for telling someone doesn’t care about lgbtq is not a reason for ban.

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          is “not supporting someone” your newspeak for being asshole? because i am pretty sure that any group of people doesn’t give a flying fuck about you or anyone else not “supporting them”, just let them be and they will be happy.

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            My experience is that when someone discovered they need certain civil rights but don’t have them, often staring down thr barrels of police service pistols, then yes, they give all the flying fucks in the universe about being supported.

            This is one of those reasons that Leopards Ate My Face is a known trope and community. Sadly, the ones who empathize already have their share of leopard teeth marked scars.

            Given I and many people I know are not going to survive genocide in the US, if ever it goes full post-Wannsee, I have little patience for anyone who does not stand at least against the transnational white power movement (aka the white Christian nationalist movement). That includes even conservatives who wish the GOP would less extreme like in the Nixon and Reagan years. That train was always going to inevitably lead to the political crisis in the US, today.

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              you missed my point and you wrote three angry paragraphs about it, good for you! 🤣

              My experience is that

              my experience is that when someone tries to put inequality sign between being an asshole and “not supporting them”, he is trying to make an excuse for being an asshole.

              what do you even mean by “supporting them”? do you bring them food and your old clothes every sunday or something? how do you express on the internet that you “don’t support” someone/something?

              when i am indifferent to a topic, whatever that topic is, i don’t feel the need to go on the internet and express that indifference. when i talk about something, it is either because i am for or against it. so when you are being called for being an asshole, you weren’t just “not supporting them”, whoever them is in the context, you were probably an asshole and now you are trying to mask it.

              (to prevent further confusion - i am aware you are not the person i originally replied to, so any “you” in this text is just a figure of speech)

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          The guy posts anti-LGBT memes everywhere. He’s one of these losers that likes to use “cuck” in his comments. I’d ban on that alone. Hell, I’d ban anyone for being a Trump supporter or a tankie. Then again, that’s why I’m not a mod, never was, and shouldn’t be.

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      For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username)

      Spending that much money and time stanning for fucking Bungie of all decaying and bloated and corrupt treat companies is really something. pathetic

      and has spent his time on !memes@lemmy.ml continuously spamming heavily transphobic, homophobic, and objectifying sexist “memes”.

      OF FUCKING COURSE. bridget-pride-stay-mad

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      For context, Bungiefan_ak has no fewer than 4 alts that I’ve seen (all on different instances with the same username)

      I mean, this is one of the benefits of the lemmyverse - using the same username across different instances. It’s not subversive.

      That’s not to lend a defence of this guy - just didn’t want having Lemmy alts presented as a bad thing.

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        Having Lemmy alts is not a bad thing. Using them to circumvent bans very much is, tho.

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        That would explain why he’s such a snob about piracy on his Reddit subs. For context on Reddit this person (pretty sure they’re the same person) banned me from a sub he moderates (I believe it was r/3dshacks) and he tried to get me banned from r/EmulationOnAndroid and also weirdly enough r/teenagers he failed at getting me banned from them by the way because those subs aren’t anti-piracy bungie stans like he is, simply put they don’t care.

        But yeah he was a real loser, I think he got removed from most of the subs he moderated by Reddit though, and the participation in the protest has all but killed the remaining Sub. From Allmighty powermod to a pathetic whiny troll (though I guess he still was a whiny troll before, he just seemed more respectable from the outside).

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          From r/3dshacks I could understand, but from r/EmulationOnAndroid??? they be pirating emulators on that sub, they do not care lmao

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            Keep in mind he isn’t even a mod there, he was trying to get me banned because he was under the delusion that they cared as much about Piracy as he did, they didn’t end up banning me, but he did argue with me for a while, even said that Citra Devs support his harassment, before quickly trying to retract it.

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      These are the alts, counts, scores, and ban status my instance is aware of:

           name     |      domain      | banned | posts | comments | post_score | comment_score 
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       Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.world      | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
       Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.dbzer0.com | t      |     0 |        2 |          0 |           -14
       Bungiefan_ak | startrek.website | t      |     0 |        0 |        -35 |            -4
       Bungiefan_ak | reddthat.com     | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
       Bungiefan_ak | lemm.ee          | t      |     0 |        7 |          0 |          -119
       Bungiefan_ak | lemdro.id        | f      |     0 |        0 |          0 |           -22
       Bungiefan_ak | geddit.social    | f      |     0 |        0 |          0 |           -30
       Bungiefan_ak | sopuli.xyz       | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
       Bungiefan_ak | lemmy.ca         | t      |     0 |        0 |          0 |             0
       Bungiefan_ak | sh.itjust.works  | t      |     0 |        7 |          0 |          -287
      
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      that guy is the most succesfull troll in history. he single-handedly created havoc that big that russian trollfarm wouldn’t have to be ashamed for and you continue to give him audience. just ban him and move on.

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      How do you people find these alts. I scroll by, like or don’t, but I have no idea if they are related.

      Do you guys have a 7th sense or something?

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        He’s using the same username on different instances, not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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      And yet you just yeeted all this attention to the troll, so congrats. You got played.

      letsa fucking GOOOOOOOOOO-

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    Does anybody have the greentext that goes something like

    Pirate game

    Company loses $60 because it’s theft

    Company regains $60 after deleting game from hard drive

    Pirate one million copies, company bankrupt from massive theft

    Buy insolvent company for cheap

    Delete all game copies, company profitable again

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      There was a short time at the beginning of the user influx on Lemmy were it actually felt friendly. Now everyone starts getting mad again. I think it’s in part because the critical mass of edgelords and otherwise hateful people has been reached. And it’s contagious or something.

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      Yeah, people are starting to catch on that federation for a Reddit style platform is not a good idea. Who knew it was actually deeply deeply flawed and poorly thought out?

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          A new federated platform that is self-run, hosts your identity only and allows you to interact from websites from your own app on your own phone or computer, to start. None of this signing up 500 trillion accounts for each and every website garbage.

          No more Lemmy instances hosting content from other servers. The content should be downloaded from the server you’re trying to interact with to the user’s system, and only what little content the user chooses to see, and is deleted like a cache as soon as the user closes it out.

          No more fucking downvoting 😠

          One account, one unique cryptographic identifier or ID tied to machines so people can’t make alt accounts or botnets

          There’s a LOT Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole needs to fix

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            I agree with most of this, although I think that downvotes are an important part of platforms like these. They allow shit takes to get their visibility reduced.

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              That’s the whole problem. No one’s posts should be affected by the opinions of others and the fact that they are incentivizes all of the problems we are facing. People are making alts, brigadeering and building botnets to get around being downvoted and that breaks the system.

              Downvotes are not legitimate in any way at all except that they make people feel better and we can’t build a future based on such auspices.

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                The main issue is this:

                Say 1,000 people are arguing over an issue with 10 different sides, on a platform where you can upvote as many comments as you want. 250 people agree with one side, and the other nine sides have no more than 150 people in agreement. In this case, the comment arguing this side would have 250 points.

                Now, in a system without downvotes, this would rise to the top. However, say all 750 other people disagree with the side and can downvote it. In this case it would have -500 points. Let’s also say that the 250 people in agreement with this point also downvote all the other comments that disagree with them (in true Reddit fashion). The second most popular opinion would be sitting at -100 points. Basically, downvotes allow massively unpopular opinions to be shoved to the bottom.

                Bots and brigading are significant problems that need attention on platforms such as these, but removing downvotes isn’t the answer.

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                  That presumes downvotes represent honest disagreement, which we both know and I have proven they don’t.

                  Because now one asshole with 500 different alts across the fediverse can take any post he wants and massively downvote it, enforcing consequential action against opinions he doesn’t like, and no one is the wiser.

                  That’s why we deal with the one having 250 upvotes, and give 500 upvotes to whoever disagrees with it, letting that opinion rise to the top instead.

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            A new federated platform that is self-run, hosts your identity only and allows you to interact from websites from your own app on your own phone or computer, to start. None of this signing up 500 trillion accounts for each and every website garbage.

            But Lemmy can literally do this. I am doing it right now. I’m the only user on my instance.

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              It’s done in the most ass way possible and isn’t really suited for being an app for one individual. We need one specifically made for like one person.

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      The companies don’t need plebs to protect them. If anyone should be willing to lay their body for them it’s their shareholders.

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    Corporations when some dude steals a copy of a 30 year old movie: 😡

    Corporations when they steal billions from their workers salaries every year: 🤑

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      We also pay for their bailouts and subsidies. Piracy is ethical.

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        See, this is the stuff I was talking about in my other comment. Too many arguments in favor of piracy are these little one off, no context one-liners that sound snappy/true, but lack nuance.

        It’s not that you don’t have a point, but you need to actually tease this out a little more, and also addressed the fact that most people who are pirating are not doing it for that reason. There is always unwillingness by piracy advocates to acknowledge that some people do it just because they want free shit. It’s not a moral stance, it’s not a social movement, it’s not a financial necessity, they just don’t want to pay for it. 

        I definitely don’t ever pirate. I would never use transmission or the pirate bay to acquire what I want. But if I did, which, of course I don’t, I would admit it’s because of a combination of 1) convenience, 2) the ability to deploy where I want it, more specifically 3) so I can put it on my server to stream on my network, and 4) because of fears of the programming being taken down, such as streaming services.

        I would also be lying if I said I wouldn’t do it because I don’t want to spend money on it. That’s just me being honest.

        My point being that whatever your reasoning, I just don’t like when people throw out bullshit excuses or examples that only apply to .001% of people engaging in piracy.

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          There is always unwillingness by piracy advocates to acknowledge that some people do it just because they want free shit.

          Some people do it just because they want free shit. I don’t care. It’s still good.

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            I think you’re missing the thrust of my point. I am not passing judgment on whether or not it’s OK to want free stuff. I am saying making excuses to pretend you don’t undermines the pro-piracy position.

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              You were responding to:

              We also pay for their bailouts and subsidies. Piracy is ethical.

              There was nothing in this statement to suggest the motive behind piracy had anything to do whether or not it is ethical. There was nothing in this statement to indicate that the author was engaging in piracy for purely altruistic reasons.

              I don’t see how the author was “making excuses to pretend [they] don’t” “want free stuff.” And I don’t see how arguing that piracy is ethical is implicitly arguing that you only do it for altruistic reasons. I think bringing up the selfish motives behind piracy without prompting is an implicit admission that there is a connection between selfish motives and the ethics of piracy. And finally, I think parsimony is effective.

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                I was widening the scope of the conversation and discussing a frustration, not accusing them of anything. I can see why my intentions were unclear though, that’s on me.

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          I agree about snippy one liners but I’m also not invested in this topic enough to go deeply into it. Maybe not until someone engages. I just browse lemmy, I share thoughts. I’m just here to hang out. If I want to learn then I read a book. I try not to take this site or myself on this site too seriously. I also like how you responded in somewhat long form. I like that a lot, and I’m hoping one day I can join tildes.net and participate in longer conversations.

          That said, I don’t think it’s a bullshit response and I don’t think I need to elaborate on how subsidies work or how deregulation has siphoned money from the public and given it to private companies. For me, it doesn’t matter why an individual chooses to pirate or how they justify it. I see it as a form of protest and anyone participating in the protest for any reason is doing it for the right reason.

          I think it’s interesting that people jump to the defence of copyright, or question the morality of piracy on the grounds of what damage it might cause to creators and publishers. Tax laws - old (austerity taxes), new (lowered corporate taxes), and proposed (100% inheritance tax) are much more significant than any effect piracy will ever have. This is what we should be debating and arguing about, not with piracy. It’s peanuts.

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            If you go through my comment history, you’ll see that I repeatedly am in favor of most piracy arguments. I am just talking about bad defenses here. 

            I’m also not sure why you’re saying you don’t really care yet took the time to write all of that. 

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              Ok. I’m not trying to get into anything here with you. I’ve said what I wanted to say.

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      Taking money for a 30-year-old movie is pretty much government-assisted stealing, if I’m honest. Copyright in the USA originally had a term of 14 years.

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        Here’s the thing: copyright term includes the life of the author plus a fixed period. So the works you and I nobodies produce will eventually become public domain after we die. HOWEVER, and this is just my underatanding of the laws and I’m definitely not a lawyer, not big name IPs because they are not registered under the human author, but a corporation that is both a person under the law and effectively immortal. So even if it’s two thousand years after George Lucas dies, Star Wars will still be copyrighted as long as Disney exists, and even if Disney dies, part of the process of corporate “death” is liquidation where they sell their IPs to the next asshole corporation.

        Am I wrong? Please correct me if I am.

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          Afaik you are not correct. Copyrights for a corporation also have an expiration date.

          Except – The expiration date can be extended by just continuing to use the IP – Ever wondered why movies get remakes/reimaginings every 30 years or so? We meme about them being “Out of ideas”, but really it’s so they can hold down their copyright.

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            Except – The expiration date can be extended by just continuing to use the IP – Ever wondered why movies get remakes/reimaginings every 30 years or so? We meme about them being “Out of ideas”, but really it’s so they can hold down their copyright.

            No, that’s just wrong. At one point, early Marvel contracts had clauses that allowed the movie producer to keep the contract going if they continued to put out movies. When Marvel got big (post-Iron Man), they had been trying to claw back those contracts. That’s why Fox kept putting out an X-Man movie every few years, and Sony kept putting out Spiderman.

            But, that has nothing to do with copyrights, and all of the remakes are just shit that Hollywood does for memberberries.

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    What a fucking loser crying about intellectual property. Love live piracy and anarchy. Be gay do crime! 🏴 🏴‍☠️ 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ yo ho ho 🦜 nikopirate custom emoji

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      its actually amazing how internet culture went from this anarcho-utopianism where information just wants to be free, maaan to reddit style races to the normie bottom. who gives a shit about intellectual property other than bowtie spinning economist dickheads and the beltway lanyard class?

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        In fairness, I think it’s because the tech barrier of entry went down, WAYYY down. “Free Data” is an easy sell to people who were dialing into usenet in the 90’s, and us stupid ameteur hackers who would break into systems like they were puzzles because we thought it was cool and the maximum penalty was a fine and community service (the good old days, we all did it at least once and thought we were Zero Cool… unless we thought Zero Cool was lame, whatever). A lot of the people who think IP jives well with the internet were the ones who looked at me weird when I said I had online friends circa 2000, and who couldn’t understand how I couldn’t make some party because I “had to spend Saturday hanging out on IRC for my D&D campaign”

        Even more technical folks now, they just never lived what made the internet beautiful when it was smaller. Back when “FOSS” was “Free as in Beer” and fuck that Richard Stallman with his “free as in speech” bullshit. They don’t remember how this dark storm of people’s hobbies turning into other people’s IP, people like Bill Gates stealing the foundations of technology to build his empire (for all the good he does now, he was truly evil to his core).

        Ok, old-fart rant over.

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          Back when “FOSS” was “Free as in Beer” and fuck that Richard Stallman with his “free as in speech” bullshit

          FOSS has always been about “free as in speech”, and Stallman has said that it’s more ethical to illegally download closed-source software than to pay for it.

          FOSS vs. proprietary is tangential to the discussion over filesharing, anyway, because it addresses different issues. FOSS isn’t good because it’s zero-cost, it’s good because it respects user freedoms.

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          It’s funny, I’ve never met anybody who’d have that kind of experience and use the word “hacker” in this meaning simultaneously.

          A lot of the people who think IP jives well with the internet were the ones who looked at me weird when I said I had online friends circa 2000

          This checks out.

          Back when “FOSS” was “Free as in Beer” and fuck that Richard Stallman with his “free as in speech” bullshit.

          I remember exactly the opposite, people being much more acutely aware of the difference, and Stallman being much more popular than now.

          people like Bill Gates stealing the foundations of technology

          Clarification? Movies about Steve Jobs excluded.

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            It’s funny, I’ve never met anybody who’d have that kind of experience and use the word “hacker” in this meaning simultaneously.

            I’m slightly too young to use “hacker” the traditional old-MIT way. Maybe only by 2-3 years. I was a stupid kid playing with linux in the mid-90’s and I hacked into a stupid municipal dialup BBS and got root, then neither did nor changed anything because it was “cool” to prove I could figure it out. Then “Hackers” came out and I ran that movie on repeat for a few weeks and then moved on to actually learning to code.

            I remember exactly the opposite, people being much more acutely aware of the difference, and Stallman being much more popular than now.

            There’s those of us who were avoiding Redhat for shittier distros (like Slackware back then imo) because we didn’t want to buy anyone else’s beer for us to contribute for free. Maybe we were fewer than it seemed. I was that ugy giving out Ubuntu Warty CD’s having this weird pipe-dream of the tech world all going free-as-in-beer (yeah, I know they’re a for-profit. A lot of people didn’t get that back then and just saw a better Debian). Maybe again it relates to the exact date?

            Clarification? Movies about Steve Jobs excluded.

            Mr. Gates started back when “hacker” didn’t mean “hacker” (as you point out). He would pick up freely-given tech early on, and was then one of the first to start crying IP complaints and asserting his ownership of his product. Wherever you stand on the opinion, Gates’ Open Letter to Hobbyists started his really terrible reputation, since many hobbyests accurately alleged he built his business on tech they were using/granting for free. I never knew the facts of the 1977 BASIC case where he was sued over ownership of BASIC and won, but then in the 80’s he notoriously started his attitude of embrace, extend, extinguish. Everything from his behavior related to DOS, his ripping off Lotus Notes, etc. One could simply say “he was a good businessman” and they’re allowed to feel that way. If you say “hey, you can have as much of my water as you want for free” and I drain your lake so you have to buy water back from me, technically what I’m doing is legal. That’s basically what many people felt Gates did.

            EDIT: And I don’t have good references, but I remember some quotes from him as his reputation got bad, that the hobbyists shouldn’t have been giving software out for free anyway. That the real problem was that they should have been demanding money for their work and/or keeping their ownership. One could argue his behavior was some of what spearheaded the carefully-crafted OSS licensing in the 80’s.

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              It is unspeakably bizarre to me that people who know how to turn on a computer forgot that Gates is Satan’s personal programmer at some point during the 21st century. I take it as an article of faith and my younger Millennial and Zoomer friends think I’m bullying a nice old man.

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        for real! I just noticed a show I wanted to watch Star Trek: Prodigy has been removed from Paramount+ for no fucking reason. The only reason I have that shit is because i’m a huge trekkie and I want them to make more and I think that Paramount+ is the only way they make any money for Trek and my roommate pays for it. Thank for for torrents. The show isn’t even watchable from any streaming service atm so I HAVE to pirate it. Normally I don’t for Star Trek simply because of how many episodes all the shows are combined but fuck it.

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    yall, this dude tried signing up to my instance a few nights ago. yall wanna see why many communities have registration approvals? see below. warning for nsfw language

    NSFW language

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      Still laughing at the vast amount of people coming from reddit and expecting only chill people to be on lemmy. Like lemmy users are somehow immune to toxicity.

      It’s less toxic overall but we (or mostly the moderators) will have to fight them all the time.

      At least it will improve the moderation tools which is always a good thing.

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        When I realized it was that dude who tried signing up to my instance I lost my shit laughing, if he was screened prior it’s obvious he wouldn’t have gotten in. This is precisely what happens when you focus on growth over organically cultivating a healthy community.

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            If that is true in any way whatsoever, that is a completely moronic long term goal. Lemmy devs themselves have encouraged instances who do such a thing to defederate. I don’t see how realistically advertising or monetization would be done not only without immense privacy concerns that would likely affect the rest of the fediverse but without major protests and mass defederation. The backlash against it would be immense, not just on lemmy but across the fediverse itself.

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        Lemmy is like every social medium since the dawn of time: a cross-section of humanity… the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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          yeah he caused huge arguments in the biggest instance, the guy is talented.

          Too bad that “talent” is being a huge asshole and getting the biggest reactions possible, instead of something useful.

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      That is legitimately one of the most disgusting things I’ve read, what is wrong with this person, why would he write that as an application.

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        It came after I was arguing with weirdo antisemites in c/atheistmemes so I assume it was because of that but I have no idea and don’t really care to know that much

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          At least he was stopped at the registration level, it likely wouldn’t have been pretty if he was allowed to run wild there like he did on other places.

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              you bet they are, it took them a month to “communicate” and “decide with community” to defed exploding heads, allowing them to grow 3x in the meantime, entire week for rammy site, but hexbear, a much larger instance that wasn’t caught proselytizing outside, got defederated “preemptively”. what the fuck is this bullshit?

              they do have pretty strong biases, but i’m guessing they got caught in their own circlejerk that tells them that all of that is normal. just look at any pinned post on .world and go into comments

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          Look around wherever you are and see if there are any billboards visible. Study one and memorize it. Boom, copyright violation. It’s fun and easy and anyone can do it!

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              Draw the advertisement on a napkin and show it to other people. Bam! That company is infringed af

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                Companies hate it when you disseminate their advertising material like that. Stick it to the man!

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                  The trick is to explain every thing in the ad. Also, and they fucking hate this, tell them the history of the company the ad is for and where they sell that product! Lol reckedem! Let’s see them try to advertise around here again !

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    What’s this drama now? The “anti-piracy” person sounds like a troll. Especially if they’re shit posting like this on a piracy-focused community. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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    I’m all for letting servers choose what they want to ban and allow. Its easy enough to just create a new account on a different server if you do not agree with the server admins decisions.

    That’s the beauty of federation. The user can also setup his own instance to access the content if he wishes. He might have to learn how to do it, but its totally doable.

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      “Intellectual property” is a corpo term, and using it accepts their framing. They’re trying to conflate copyright, trademark, and patent law with property law.

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        I mean, that’s exactly what all three of those were intended to do – carry property law over into a domain where it clearly doesn’t make sense. so it’s fully same-picture. none of them should exist.

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          Seconded. Enclosing the commons and doing a little primitive accumulation to actual knowledge. Love when a private corporations own colors, random snippets of genome, common words and phrases, and endless inventions that they’re squatting on to ensure they don’t compete with their own products.

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    I buy most of my content, steam mostly for games, have spotify, buy music from bandcamp for DJ sets, at least my favorites, have family netflix, HBO, disney +, although I don’t use those as much since they are mostly full of crap. Sometimes I even buy/rent a movie if it is not available in those and I can’t find any torrent, or just out of convenience. I produce music and buy all my audio software (ableton and fuckton of plugins) because I don’t want to deal with the hassle of using pirated versions. I buy ebooks every now and then too, although with that I also admittely pirate some, especially when the author is dead, in which case I really don’t feel any guilt for pirating it. I also use patreon often and support creators that way.

    I still think piracy needs to be an option, so streaming services can’t have their way and we are just forced to use their enshittified platforms. I avoid it, because I understand not everything can be open source, and nothing get’s done without revenue. I don’t pirate from small authors/creators.

    All the while musicians get basically fucking nothing from huge streaming services profiting from their labor. Series get cancelled left and right despite good reception because they were not profitable enough, although still profitable, because netflix is only interested making next big hit. Games are filled with microtransactions and kernel level tracking (anti cheat), forced online features in single player game and sometimes games one bought are just made unavailable, like with old mobile games (case in point, dead space mobile). Professional software is often moved to predatory subscription models and paywalled updates to the software, like Avid, Waves.

    And people still cirlejerk about piracy being the worst thing to intellectual property ever. Problem isn’t piracy, problem is small creators are payed so little from listens/views/whatever that the can barely get by, and have to make alternate source of income via patreon or some other stuff. Piracy won’t even make a dent in that.

    Luckily in every category some people/companies are pushing back but all of this is just case in point why we need piracy. When I get around releasing music/games, I don’t mind piracy at all, might even put my own tunes on pirate sites out of spite. Current intellectual property laws are fucking joke and only benefit the largest creators in their respective fields.

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      You can summarize that in just simply saying: capitalism is the problem. Just with anything else, capitalism doesn’t care to give us the best entertainment, it simply will benefit the ones with the most profit. So long we live under capitalism, this will be the underlying problem. Capitalism doesn’t care about what people want or need.

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      Same. I make good money today and I can pay for the stuff I use, but when I get some nostalgia and feel like playing a game from my childhood like The Little Samson, my only option is to go cry on a corner because the game isn’t available anywhere and is worth 3 thousand dollars minimum - which even if I paid would never go to the folks who made the game anyway.

      When I was a teenager I couldn’t afford anything. I didn’t even had a computer or a video-game of my own, I started working at a Lan house when I was 14 just to be able to afford an occasional snack. I played a bunch of SNES games at that time thanks to emulators - if piracy wasn’t an option I would never have played them and probably wouldn’t have gotten into videogames that much. 6 years later I managed to buy a DS and a couple games. Since then I’ve bought several consoles and a ton of games for each of them. Nintendo made several thousand dollars from me over the years and that would never have happened if I didn’t have access to SNES pirated games 20 years ago.

      I even got to make a game of my own now, which directly benefitted from piracy as well, as I noticed a bunch of people playing pirated versions on YouTube, with comments on those videos mentioning they liked it and bought it. My main concern related to piracy at that time was that those players were not getting bug fixes and new stuff I added to the game.

      In truth, there is no downside to piracy - it’s a net gain for everyone involved as long as the paying customers get to have a better, more comfortable experience with not having to deal with any hassle to consume your content. But if you make it harder for me to consume your content than the high seas does, well that’s on you.

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      After Adobe fucking me out of thousands, I swore I’d make sure I never gave them another cent. if there weren’t greedy scumbags I would’ve paid for upgrades (hundreds of bucks) to the master collection every 5-10 years. Now, because that wasn’t enough for them, they’ll never EVER get another dime from me. I encourage pirating their shit because fuck them. What they did to their customers was unconscionable. When I called to ask them to make this right, after essentially breaking their promise to me that this enormous purchase was an investment, their best offer? 25% of my first year of cloud. Lol… Would’ve still felt like the shaft of they gave it to me free for 5 years.