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Smart TVs are honestly one of the dumbest inventions.
All they did was take power away from people so corporations could sell it back to them.
I will not use TCL then.
Yep. This is the new answer. Either buy a model assured to have jailbreak and replace the stock privacy nightmare; or spend more $$$ on a dumb tv.
For those (like me) who bought a TCL tv at a stupidly cheap price on Black Friday, you have options.
- buy an AppleTV (even second hand) and don’t connect the tv to the internet. You won’t see any adverts on your Home Screen and be done with all this bullshit. What’s that? What’s the point in buying a £200 TV if you need to buy a £150 accessory? I hear you, read on…
- if you’re broke like me, you can disable the stock launcher with adb and install projectivy launcher. I needed to use some software called launcher manager from xdaforums to replace the stock launcher. I also used adb to uninstall the pre-installed apps I had no intention of using.
Hopefully there are enough key words in there for you to google / research what you need to get going. Good luck!
I recommend to replace the default launcher on every Android TV, replaced the default Google Launcher on my Sony TV and it feels faster and has no ads
I remember when the Google launcher just worked fine. Suddenly, one update later, there’s now ads for shows on services I don’t even use taking up the entire top 2/3rds of the home screen. WTF google.
You got any recommendations for an lg webos tv?
Not the OP, but connect a computer to it and set it to turn on to the last input. I’ve had one for a year and can’t even remember what their interface looks like.
Dope thanks
Gentle reminder Apple does actually take steps to protect you from tracking, the premium you pay comes with some protection from their need to sell you out.
It’s not perfect, but it’s better than the alternates by far.
1/1 mobile / OS security experts agree
Note about the second bullet: Not all TCL TVs are Google TV, which can be switched to Protectivity - Roku TVs at this point, as far as I know, cannot disable ads if connected to the Internet.
I’m struggling heavily to find that OS to learn more about it (literally just got a google tcl tv delivered today, as my old one died last week), can you provide a link of some variety?
I was very heartened to find out that it’s just big android, so there’s likely a lot that can be done with it (but I got it to be dumb).
If this is the case for you (I have both in my house), I recommend putting your RokuTV behind a Pi Hole DNS. It will block the TV ad requests at a DNS level while letting content and video go through.
The only problem I found with this is that Roku knows it’s being blocked so it’ll kill some apps over time (like the Plex app) in a way that forces you to fully reinstall the app. Which means unblocking their domain and allowing them to phone home (or disabling/bypassing pihole), because the app downloads go through that domain as well.
Before I just factory reset them and denied them any internet at all, Plex would break and need to be reinstalled about every 2 months like clockwork, and it wasn’t due to app updates or anything. I know this because I did a test once; reset on one tv, and 2 weeks later on another one. The first called for an update at roughly the 2 month mark, and the other exactly two weeks later. Meanwhile an absolutely ancient Samsung tv still has a copy of the Plex app that hasn’t been updated in like 5 years (it’s a fully obsolete tv)… works fine.
My speculation is that it records the data for that period, and then breaks things you use so it can phone home when you are forced to connect it to fix it.
Can I just get a goddamned monitor? Like, please can my TV just be a damn 70" monitor with hookups for whatever actual tech I want to use to watch stuff?
Is that too much to ask? My TV has to have its own shitty, unintuitive, slow, buggy OS stuffed with ungodly amounts of bloatware and bullshit?
This is really the of stuff dystopian scifi.
A somewhat cliched saying comes to my mind when reading this article.
“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.” [1]
Hopefully, there will eventually be pushback against this techno-feudalism and oligarchy. For what it’s worth this seems to always happen in history. Ruling elites (in our case oligarchs and their promoters; the media, economists, politicians) consolidate their power and start to become disconnected from reality.
As a side note, it’s funny that AI-generated videos have themes of dystopia and rebellion against the system.
Just when we think it can’t get worse, some rich asshole has to laugh and say “Hold my beer and watch me enshittify even harder.”
A while ago a company patented a method using eye tracking to monitor whether TV watchers were paying attention to ads.
It can always get worse.
When can we start to own things again?
For TVs now, by buying used. Help yourself and the environment by buying an unwanted “dumb” TV that’s free of this sort of crap.
Or if budget allows, look at industrial displays.
Supply answers demand, is we stop buying junk smart stuff and take our money elsewhere the market will eventually follow.
We also need to start mocking people who watch AI slop.
People don’t deliberately sit and watch ads.
Tell this to every person without an ad blocker installed
I reiterate: people don’t deliberately sit and watch ads.
You are vastly vastly vastly vastly overestimating peoples’ tech literacy. People don’t know that ad blockers exist, nor do they know how to install them.
TCL - That Cheap Life
Does anyone know if there’s something similar to universal android debloater for android tvs?
God this shit is sad, I can’t believe anyone involved (besides the few making all the money) are remotely proud to have worked on this. I get that its a trope to not accept new technology/trends but ai always makes me put on a face of disgust without trying.
are remotely proud to have worked on this.
Usually the people working on this are too afraid of their financial standing to care about what they’re actually working on.
I don’t want to say they “need” the money, because odds are they can do with less. They are likely on the consumer bandwagon without even realizing it and want to make as much money as possible so they can spend as much money as possible.
The means are irrelevant.
This is annoying. Idk how we fix it.
Product placement was the least annoying. I’m pretty sure we all wanted to know why the original Daredevil law office had Progresso bread crumbs in their coffee corner, so it’s not like it went unnoticed.
Idk how we fix it.
Simple. Don’t buy a TCL television. If you do have one, or any other brand of “smart” TV then for gods sake do NOT connect it to the internet.
And even then, there have been smart TVs caught sniffing for same brand devices and open networks to connect to the web.
Buy a large flat computer monitor and plug a small PC into it
i wonder how long until they start putting shit to those too
Apple’s monitors have an entire OS in them. They have much of the same internals as an iPad. Honestly, I have no idea why, because they don’t do anything especially fancy.
Samsung makes “smart monitors” with Tizen or some shit like that.
Apple wants you buying from them. Remember how a simple charging cable was a problem back with the first iterations of the iPhone.
OTOH people who aren’t in the entertainment industry will use generative AI to make original films they otherwise never would have been able to. It seems like a great tool for individual creators who aren’t able to produce images by themselves. Yes, they won’t hire artists to do this, but they wouldn’t have anyway, and we’ll get to enjoy their work, which wouldn’t have existed otherwise. I don’t think we should demonize a very promising technology because we don’t like how some people are using it.
I don’t think their films will be able to reflect their personal creativity other than the story
I would be a fool to debate your psychic powers.
