• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    For everyone focusing on the toddler alone in a hot car part. This was a fireworks stand. So they were probably 10 to 20 feet away. We can hope they opened the windows, which would make it roughly the same temp as where they were. So let’s refocus on the gun please.

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      Let’s focus on how pissed they look in that photo.

      On a side note, your user name. What is modern medicine not?

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            This isn’t a vaccine thing. They are certainly talking about things like antidepressants that we can see do work but don’t have really any clue how or why and can’t come up with something that doesn’t have bonkers life changing side effects.

            mRNA vaccines are precision engineering and are where the future of medicine is. They do one thing in a targeted way and do it well.

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            Not OP, so can’t comment on the vaccine part but the “modern medicine isn’t modern” is actually a cute analysis. When it comes the healing major woulds, even ones inflicted intentionally like during surgery, we don’t actually know how to heal the body. We know how to clean the wound. We know how to remove malignant tissue. But we don’t actually know how to heal the wound. The best we’ve got is “keep it clean and let the body do it’s thing”. To OPs “poison” point, when it comes to things like antibiotics, those are really just other stuff in nature that we found out kills stuff inside us. It also kills stuff we don’t want to kill inside us, which sounds kind of poisony. Chemotherapy and radiation treatment are similar - just dose this person with this stuff and hope the thing we’re trying to kill dies before the person does.

            Surprisingly vaccines are probably the most “modern” example we have of medicine, especially the RNA stuff.

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    I don’t leave my carry gun around my adult GF or untrained friends…everything else is locked up. WTF

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    As an advocate of the 2nd amendment who thinks gun regulations need to be more strict assessing theental health of anyone purchasing a gun, I find it very hard to believe parents who leave a child in a hot car with a loaded gun to both go into a store to shop could pass any test of their fucking mental stability. This had to be premeditated whether they can prove it legally. Someone else in the thread said it was 90F when this happened so when you add it all up, a toddler was left out if their carseat, with a loaded gun, in either a running vehicle the kid could’ve kicked into gear accidently or in a vehicle that wasn’t running on a fucking 90 degree day. Way too many cognizant decisions were made to not charge them with 1st degree murder.

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      As a non-American, it’s crazy to me that there (apparently) aren’t any safe storage laws enforced. Would it really infringe people’s gun rights to require that all firearms may only be in a safe, in your hands, or on your person (in a holster, sling, etc.)?

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        About half of US states have safe storage laws. You can probably guess which ones. Surprisingly, both Texas and Florida are both on this list, though, so credit where it’s due.

        The enforcement of those laws is another story, though. And to be fair, enforcement can be difficult. You can always charge them with a safe storage violation after an incident happens and police/EMS/etc enter the home legally, but otherwise, nobody is coming into your home to ensure that you’re locking up your guns properly. It’s illegal without a warrant, and surprise safety checks aren’t something you can issue a warrant for.

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          Of course, charging them after the fact means they’ll regret it… but it won’t prevent anyone from doing the same. After all, such bad accidents only ever happen to other people.

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    I have a serious question here that I always get when I read news like this. As someone not from the US but having experience with guns through my military training, how is it that toddlers can even pull the trigger of a weapon?

    When we had the training for the pistol it was difficult to pull the trigger. IIRC it was even stated that this was by design so that you can’t pull the trigger by accident.

    Are there no regulations for such a thing in the US or are toddlers that strong to do it anyway?

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      In addition to what people are saying about trigger pull weight there are an unfortunate number of people that think reducing trigger pull weight to pointlessly low numbers is cool. If you’re a competition shooter it might be worth it to a point, but anyone leaving a handgun unsecured and accessible in a vehicle isn’t a person who takes firearms seriously.

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      There are a ton of different kinds of pistols, and all have varying types of trigger weight. If you trained in a EU military, you probably trained with something like a Beretta 92 or CZ 75, both of which have a double action/single action (“DA/SA”) design, where the long DA is a safety feature. After the first shot, the gun will be in SA mode, with a much lighter weight for easier follow-up shots. One can also put a DA/SA gun into SA mode by chambering a round and cocking the hammer. Most consider this to be an unsafe way to carry a pistol without a further manual safety (both the Beretta and CZ have one for carrying in this manner).

      Glock is the most common pistol make in the US, and they use a striker fired design. A striker fired pistol is typically equipped with a medium-weight trigger - lighter than a DA pull, but not as light as a SA.

      Because the toddler shot himself in the chest, he was also likely using his thumbs, rather than index finger on the trigger. I think a toddler would easily have the strength to pull a striker trigger, and definitely a SA.